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  Narcissistic Elders/Pioneers

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today, while listening to a book that covered narcissism, i was a bit surprised to find a connexion with those “seeking privileges” in the organization.

  while not being paid, pioneers, ministerial servants and elders invest a great level of time and effort in upholding their responsibilities.

  fear of being destroyed by god for not doing enough.

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  iwantoutnow

  was a bit surprised to find a connexion with those “seeking privileges” in the organization.

  If you think about it, for many "elder", this is the only place they may have power or validation.

  So many are uneducated and trapped in crap jobs because of being a JW.

  Many come from poor backgrounds to begin with.

  They are bossed around by everyone in their life, but in the Congregation, they can get power and praise!
  
  Of course people like that will be drawn to want to BE AN ELDER!

  That is ABSOLUTELY not to say that this is the case with all of them, I was one, but people want validation and power and to be better than someone else.

  
  
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  Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

  letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

  apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

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  iwantoutnow

  JW GoneBad, wow they know how to spread the BULLSHIT!
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  I attended my JWs Grandfathers funeral

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i attended my grandfathers jw funeral the other day.

  firstly i am a rabid apostate, and certainly not wt greatest fan.

  that been said however, i will certainly stick up for them when they do the right thing.

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  The outline has changed to allow for more "eulogizing", but most Elders won't even know how to do that.

  Its all about the elder body.
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  Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

  letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

  apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

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  iwantoutnow

  Just so you guys now - the value of the different Rewards Benefits, are STAGGERING when you think of the MILLIONS of hotels stays that have been happening for decades.

  Just think of some of the things you may get as rewards, besides free stays, cash back, discounts for products and services.....
  

  It is BIG MONEY!!
  
  AND THE FRIENDS ARE NEVER TOLD!
  

  They are BROW BEATEN TO GO TO THE ASSIGNED HOTEL "cuz you will be hurting the other friends if you dont" - NOT GO so the WT can collect ALL YOUR PREKS and use them for themselves.
  
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  Hotels Deny Watchtower Discount Rates For 2020 Regional Conventions

  by JW GoneBad in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the wtbts is not being given special room rates by 2 major hotels at the long beach convention center area for the upcoming 2020 regional conventions & wt is t'd off.

  letters are being read in surrounding circuits and congregations.

  apparently wt is afraid that other hotels are going to blackball them as well.. has anyone else heard this?

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  iwantoutnow

  That is strange.

  So many people may not know this, but I do from an elder who is in the negotiations in the Tri-State area.

  It is NOT NOT NOT about the price, and getting a better rate for the "friends", as we have all thought.

  Any group almost automatically qualifies for a discount rate, and it it not hard at all to get a good rate when any company buys a block, or guarantees at least X will show up on these dates.

  So whats it about?

  It is about the REWARDS that hotel chains offer!

  Instead of individuals getting REWARDS they all go as a block to the WT!!!

  This is also their practice with Airlines tix for International Conventions.

  You pay the money the WT collects ALL THE REWARDS.

  WHen you are talking 10s of thousands and more people regularly, this is a MASSIVE BOON for the WT

  It is worth MILLIONS a year to them.

  Thats how WT big wigs are always flying 1st class, but the way.
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  Good memories of full-time service?

  by fulano in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  perhaps not a topic for everybody... mine.. in both sp service in a foreign field in europe , the freedom and helping people to read and write in spanish .

  doing a lot of work in the congregations.. in missionary-service.. helping congregations in a third-world country and see good results in family relations.

  and the siestas from 13:00 to 15:00..... who has good memories of bethel?

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  iwantoutnow

  Regional Building Committee - Building or refurbing Kingdom Halls.
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  Good memories of full-time service?

  by fulano in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  perhaps not a topic for everybody... mine.. in both sp service in a foreign field in europe , the freedom and helping people to read and write in spanish .

  doing a lot of work in the congregations.. in missionary-service.. helping congregations in a third-world country and see good results in family relations.

  and the siestas from 13:00 to 15:00..... who has good memories of bethel?

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  iwantoutnow

  One of the best parts of Pioneering was that I could count time doing RBC (which I loved) instead of knocking on doors.
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  The only thing Jehovah gives Hurricane Dorian survivors is.....''the strength to cope with their difficulty and distress.''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this article is from jw.org newsroom.

  audioaudio download options historic hurricane dorian pummels bahamas.

  hurricane dorian, one of the most powerful storms ever recorded in the atlantic ocean, made landfall as a category 5 storm on great abaco island in the northern bahamas on sunday morning, september 1, 2019. dorian is especially dangerous due to its slow movement, high wind speeds, and heavy rains.

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  How so you measure that?

  And what about everyone else?

  Was there a Mass Suicide because Jehober did not give unbelievers the strength to cope?

  FYI - CULT + TIME = Religion

  
  
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  Ever Wondered What People Think of Not-at-home Letters and Obit Letters?

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.patheos.com/blogs/thefreethinker/2019/10/op-ed-intruders/.

  here are some excerpts of a man who was called on by 2 young female jws, received a not-at-home letter as well, and what he thought about them.

  i encourage you to read the whole thing, it is worth the laugh.. "it wasn’t pompeo knocking but he would have beamed approval on the two young women on the doorstep.

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  iwantoutnow

  I did a LOT of letter writing when I pioneered.

  It helped for getting time.

  But I dont know if I actually mailed more than a few.

  I know I was not alone. :)
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  PIMO Elder with a Dilemma

  by xjwsrock in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i haven’t been on here in awhile and this is my second user name because i was busted by my pimi wife on the first one.

  i have been basically awake since 2013. i have a super dub wife that i love and don’t want to lose and my sick mom in the hall that is a true believer.

  stupid religion has gotten between my wife and i (of course).

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  iwantoutnow

  Hey also!

  Watch the Leah Rimini Season 1 on Scientology with your wife!!!

  It parallels the WT sooooo much, BUT, you are not watching an apostate thing, so it may get her thinking more!!!!!