Thanks for this thread Flipper.
Definetely hypocritical and unfair! You can totally use this as proof that the holy spirit has nothing to do with this stupid religion.
But thats the org for you and thats why we left.
Posts by jemba
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55Elders Can Hide their Own Sins from the Past-Yet Continue as Elders? Read
by flipper ini was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.
notice this on pg.
38 , paragraph 19 : it states, " if it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : the body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true : the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned.
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ny jw principle causes problem banning patriotic song...on foxnews now
by oompa ingod bless the usa song by lee greenwood...is making little kids sing a bieber love song instead lmao...baby baby baby....and it is a very long segment with lee himself making good points about the idiot jw as did the mom of a kid the jw lady principle bitch slapped for singing the song...that is not literal all you pc sensitive types out there.....oompa.
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jemba
Why must those stupid dubs draw attention to themselves and their ridiculous beliefs?
They might as well get up on a platform and yell 'look at me I am an idiot, I want to stand out and be different'!
The JW kids at my sons school look pretty stupid when they wont stand or sing the national anthem on Mondays and Fridays and get taken out of their class during any celebrations.
Gotta feel sorry for the kids.
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In my day...
by GeneM inwhats up with the bling'd out, kid raising governing body?
in my day governing body members we really old.. those were the days....
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jemba
Yeah some really young 'elders' in my area. Love to wipe the cocky smart ass grin off a few of their faces too.
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Sparlock Drives My Wife to the Brink of Apostasy
by breakfast of champions ini reported the other night that we sat down to watch the new video, and while my wife was smiling and laughing while watching the first part, she stiffened and became quiet during part two.
it disturbed her deeply:.
"this is ridiculous.
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jemba
Great news BOC cant wait to see your wife make new progress with more stupid releases from the GB.
AskDuane and MrFacts are either together or are the same person. How do you know AskDuane is a 'her'? Im also a little disturbed that AskDuane plans to 'meet god'. That doesnt even sound JW to me. Anyway wait till youve been in the org for 37 yrs and really see the WBTS for what they are, lets hope you wake up before that.
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What do you think would happen if a SISTER shaved her head?
by keep into donate all her hair to cancer?
discuss..
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jemba
Theyd ask why she is raising money for cancer and not giving more to the cong?? Then suggest she wear a wig for her brazen new hair-do.
I remember a newly baptised sister who had just gone thru breast cancer and had the breast removed, she turned up to the hall without a prosthetic breast and her bust on one side was very large. The poor darling was so shunned by the sisters for looking 'different'. No love and kindness for that lady from the cong.
Funny thing is she cared for the sister who studied with her till she died, even toileting and washing her with no help from the cong.
Needless to say, she left because of the lack of love in the org.
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Mental Illness & Suicide In the Organization
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this topic has been discussed before ... i just wanted to put my two cents in.. i will start off by saying that of course mental illness exists outside of the organization.
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jemba
I have personally known 6 people in the org that have committed suicide and attended their terribly sad funerals.
All of them were having trouble in the org, facing or just having been disfellowhipped or reproved. Never have I heard the dubs blame the judicial system they have set up, no, blame was always placed on the dead person who should have been doing the 'right thing' in jehs eyes. 'they obviously didnt have jehs holy spirit', 'probably still doing the wrong thing'.
There are many, many suicides I have heard about and then all of those that tried to suicide.
So many poor people just trying to find happiness, they will never get in the org.
Disgusting people to judge others this way even after they have died.
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Mental Illness & Suicide In the Organization
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this topic has been discussed before ... i just wanted to put my two cents in.. i will start off by saying that of course mental illness exists outside of the organization.
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jemba
Put it this way... after a lifetime in the org and depression as far back as I can remember as a small child, progressing to panic attacks, awful self esteem and anxiety issues, suicidal feelings and serious chronic fatigue... I found out TTATT.
Wow, the amazing weight that lifted off my shoulders, the negativety, pressure and guilt GONE. It has improved my problems 98% getting away from it all and that is no exaggeration.
The org has a lot to answer for!! They took so much from that young impressionable girl and left an emotional wreck.
The GB and the selfish arseholes that love all the power and control in the org will one day face their own armaggedon... its called KARMA.
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jemba
The mother and baby in the flood scene is still too much for me to think about. Wow what a kind loving god the GBs Jeh is!
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jemba
Dont let your kids watch violent movies or play violent games but leave them to sit and look at this garbage in my book of bible stories for 2 hours.
Personally those pictures para mentioned are all permanently stamped on my brain. I was emotionally affected by them as a kid and was hesitant to let my own kids look at these pictures. (but hey Jeh/GB knows best)
Another pic that comes to mind is the one of Jesus on the stake in terrible pain with nails in his hands with blood leaking out. Thats the one that my kids always opened up to as soon as they picked up the book.
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What do you think would happen if somebody in the GB needed blood
by keep inwould they refuse the transfusion?
or come up with a "new understanding" that you can accept blood in certain situations?.
btw as you can see this is my first post so hi.
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jemba
Cocos comment on the hemophiliacs only being allowed one treatment is one of the weirdest and most hypocritical of all the rules they ever made. If they think abstaining really means total abstinence then how can it be ok to have even one dose?