I would agree John has an unique take on who Jesus is. But it seems pretty clear that he claimed the God of the old testament as his Father. In John 5:46 he says Moses wrote of him. Who is Jesus in the gospel of John. I would say the incarnation of the Word and Mind of the Father is one way to put it, God speaking on feet in flesh. Also a sort of baby God, all having the heavily symbolisms of John in mind. Godman out of heaven, "divine flesh". It fits fine with my general Oneness/Modalist understanding of Jesus
JoenB75
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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JoenB75
It seems William Barclay admitted in a letter to a David Burnett dated May 2, 1974 quoted on the "For an answer" page (now closed down?) that "a god" in John 1:1 is grammatically possible. It is a sort of taqiya when scholars say something is impossible based on their theology and tradition. It is possible, he did just not agree with it. It neither fitted Trinitarianism nor his own theology where Jesus is the reason and cause of all things, the Word and Mind of God made man and therefore "a god" or an angel did not fit the bill
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The 1950s NWT (1984)
by HowTheBibleWasCreated ini did a video on this subject once but feel this is a noteworthy topic.
to be honest the old nwt has come under sonsiderable attack from fundie morons attacking it's nt which was translated with a few revisals in 1950.the truth is john 1:1 and 8:58 and other texts, though despite being odd, are within the translation rules as are the inclusion of the word {other} since this was stated in the forward as an interpolation.
jehovah in the nt is odd but certianly lacking as other translations have added more yhwh.. so the ot?
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JoenB75
Actually JWs are henotheists. The idea that our English "God" is a name and exclusive to the one true guy / power with capital P is an Evangelical invention and oversimplification ☺️.
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something funny happened on the way to November--
by waton instude 138 this week is about jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, col. 1:13 was never read or discussed.
even the whole section of the book's article was not read!.
next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon panda paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.. was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room?
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JoenB75
Yes strange JW doctrine discourages prayers to Jesus
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something funny happened on the way to November--
by waton instude 138 this week is about jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, col. 1:13 was never read or discussed.
even the whole section of the book's article was not read!.
next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon panda paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.. was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room?
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JoenB75
Most Full Preterist believe the great ressurection was corporal out of the dead body of judaism but thankfully some also believe it is IBV, individual
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something funny happened on the way to November--
by waton instude 138 this week is about jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, col. 1:13 was never read or discussed.
even the whole section of the book's article was not read!.
next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon panda paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.. was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room?
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JoenB75
Waton, So the WTS had its own pretrib doctrine
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something funny happened on the way to November--
by waton instude 138 this week is about jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, col. 1:13 was never read or discussed.
even the whole section of the book's article was not read!.
next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon panda paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.. was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room?
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JoenB75
Waton, I think the Christian CS Lewis called it the most embarrising verse in the Bible. Dispensationalists try to argue that the word for geversation really means race (the Jewish race) so JW is not alone with the twisting. It is a cornerstone verse in Preterism but not a verse I gave any thought before becoming one. Some Preterists believe there was a literal 1st century Rapture and the "bad ones" were left behind and corrupting the Church 🤫. Now that is a straight forward reading although with some implications. I think both the Canon Farrar and JS Russell (Yeah another Russell) believed so
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Muslim beheads one kills another yelling alahu akbar or what ever it is the idiots yell.
by mickbobcat inidiot muslims do it again.
when will libtards learn.
and now scotland wants to prosecute people for saying things in their own homes the muslims deem hate speech.
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JoenB75
Death penalty should not be taken lightly, but a society without it seems low on moral
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Phizzy, you segregate the colors when you do laundry?
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JoenB75
Hehe Jesse Lee Peterson wants to take the majority of his fellow blacks back to the plantation, so they can learn to be honest responsible workers like in the ol jim crow days. I bet a white man would be crucified for saying that