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  2023 Service Report

  by Tahoe in

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  NotFormer

  Is there a link to this report?

  Edited: It's okay; I found it. Australia went backwards by nearly a thousand people. They're calling it -1%. The same trajectory as the USA. Good news!
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  🎄The Life of Antony Morris

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. humour

  🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.

  vidiot6 days ago.

  notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.

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  NotFormer

  Hmm. Was Tony using the royal plural when he said "The GB is under attack"? Did he really mean that he was under attack from the rest of the GB?
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  Essential Beliefs

  by LeeMerk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if the watchtower really wants to move more mainstream they need to take a lesson from evangelicals in the united states.

  they seem to say there are "essential beliefs".

  a handful of core beliefs that are necessary to be considered true christians.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, they could wind up the organisation, hand the Kingdom Halls over to the individual congregations, wish them luck, "You're on your own now", and ride off into the sunset.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  Diogenesister, I had to look that one up. It actually means "book salesman" ; it doesn't even hide the sales aspect! It reminds me of how Amway had "distributors" and now has IBOs ("Independent Business Operators"). 🙄
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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  NotFormer

  Carla, the local Kingdom Hall carpark was full on the Tuesday night I went past it. Anecdotally, I don't see any dying WT. The literature trolley is still manned in town on most days.

  That doesn't mean that some areas aren't going downhill. I suppose it's all in the long game.
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  General Amnesty For Disfellowshipped

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  future gb: "please come back!

  all is forgiven!".

  would it work?

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  Future GB: "Please come back! All is forgiven!"

  Would it work? Would the current haemorrhageing be staunched, or at least slowed down?
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  NotFormer

  There's a pretty simple explanation for hotels not wanting to accommodate Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witness is an ancient Hebrew term, meaning: lousy tipper.
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  Resources: Spanish Association of Victims of Jehovah's witnesses

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  resources for the court case of the spanish congregation of jehovah's christian witnesses v. the spanish association of victims of jehovah's witnesses.

  eric wilson's translation:.

  https://youtu.be/sf5cjun2nvo?si=giqwrloq9mcpfvx2.

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  NotFormer

  Belgium, like other governments, needs to look at the issue at a parliamentary and legislative level, rather than just sending it off to the courts. One main issue is the pressure on minor children to get baptised and then the shunning that may then follow. If membership, WT style, is not allowed until age 18, then at least the WT's claws are blunted somewhat, while freedom of religion is not being interfered. The rights to vote, drink alcohol and drive are all age dependent.
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  Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

  by gavindlt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so when was jesus begotten.

  was he truly and wholly fully human.

  did he exist in two states, part human part god.

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  Slim, the Christadelphians deny the pre-existence of Jesus, prior to his conception. The ones I've talked to have said that, yes, the Word was in the beginning, but Jesus isn't the Word. I don't know if that view is held across all Christadelphian ecclesias; you might ask the ones you know, next time your paths cross. I'd be interested to know.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  NotFormer

  I'm surprised that "service" was not one of the words used by "Christendom" that Da Judge jettisoned to differentiate the organisation from other sects. It's not used in exactly the same way, but still, he could have purged it. Was he just not trying? I'm pretty sure "pioneer", used the WT way is unique to them.

  That being said, publisher numbers will look good for a while. Will they publish hours put in by pioneers and others who still have to report hours?

  Stan: to further confuse things, in the KJV, "publican" means "tax collector".