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  Jehovah and Pleiades

  by James Brown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone remember seeing old watchtowers in their kingdom hall library before they destroyed them all, of the watchtower annoucing jehovah from pleiades kingdom.

  i am 72 years old and i remeber seeing these old magazines somewhere..

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  NotFormer

  Well that answers the question I asked on another thread about whether or not the whole Alcyone thing had any biblical weight. Apart from being the main star in the Pleiades (which are mentioned) it's a projection from astronomy.
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  Smoking

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences?

  given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?.

  *even mainstream christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the holy spirit.

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  NotFormer

  Is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences? Given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?

  *Even mainstream Christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. But on that basis, eating too much fatty or sugary food is equally sinful.
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  🎄The Life of Antony Morris

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. humour

  🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.

  vidiot6 days ago.

  notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.

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  NotFormer

  That being said, the true crook in this case, Ted Jaracz, who weaponised the two witnesses rule in CSA cases, has escaped from the justice due him in the mortal realm.
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  🎄The Life of Antony Morris

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. humour

  🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.

  vidiot6 days ago.

  notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.

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  NotFormer

  "I do know that many attempts to serve subpoenas on the GB have them spooked."

  That might be the reason for the facility in Argentina that the GB will supposedly retire to if things get too hot. Extradition might not be possible if they are only wanted for a certain input on policy, rather than being charged with anything criminal.
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  2023 Service Report

  by Tahoe in

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  NotFormer

  Is there a link to this report?

  Edited: It's okay; I found it. Australia went backwards by nearly a thousand people. They're calling it -1%. The same trajectory as the USA. Good news!
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  🎄The Life of Antony Morris

  by Diogenesister in

  1. social
  2. humour

  🎄 just thought this not former/vidiot back & forth deserved it's own christmas special !!!🎄.

  vidiot6 days ago.

  notformer - “…if he does attend a kingdom hall physically, i imagine there're some ‘security’ arrangements in place…”.

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  NotFormer

  Hmm. Was Tony using the royal plural when he said "The GB is under attack"? Did he really mean that he was under attack from the rest of the GB?
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  Essential Beliefs

  by LeeMerk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if the watchtower really wants to move more mainstream they need to take a lesson from evangelicals in the united states.

  they seem to say there are "essential beliefs".

  a handful of core beliefs that are necessary to be considered true christians.

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  NotFormer

  Vidiot, they could wind up the organisation, hand the Kingdom Halls over to the individual congregations, wish them luck, "You're on your own now", and ride off into the sunset.
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  Where’s the 2023 Service Report?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what’s keeping them?

  this has got to be the latest it’s ever been.

  maybe it’s the last one they’ll ever publish too, after dropping reporting hours for publishers ….

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  NotFormer

  Diogenesister, I had to look that one up. It actually means "book salesman" ; it doesn't even hide the sales aspect! It reminds me of how Amway had "distributors" and now has IBOs ("Independent Business Operators"). 🙄
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  Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

  by hoser in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the kingdom hall is still empty.

  even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

  the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

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  NotFormer

  Carla, the local Kingdom Hall carpark was full on the Tuesday night I went past it. Anecdotally, I don't see any dying WT. The literature trolley is still manned in town on most days.

  That doesn't mean that some areas aren't going downhill. I suppose it's all in the long game.
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  General Amnesty For Disfellowshipped

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  future gb: "please come back!

  all is forgiven!".

  would it work?

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  Future GB: "Please come back! All is forgiven!"

  Would it work? Would the current haemorrhageing be staunched, or at least slowed down?