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  Has The Interpretation of the Beast Changed?

  by NotFormer in

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  my understanding* is that the un is supposed to be the wild beast of revelation.

  the un only came into being after wwii, so what was the beast before the new light came about?

  i can't see a speculative organisation like the wt not having an interpretation of the beast before the un came into being.

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  NotFormer

  In the 70s , when there was a resurgence in interest in Bible prophecy, particularly after Hal Lindsay published The Late Great Planet Earth, most prophecy speculators from mainstream Christianity (usually independent purveyors of their own books and videos; the churches generally kept out of such speculation) decided that the beast was the EU (ECU back in the day). Their reasoning was usually that the beast had ten horns and ten crowns, and it would only be a matter of time before there were ten EU members. When Greece joined in 1981, I bet they all wet themselves!

  I never followed those guys much after that. I wonder how they spun Spain and Portugal joining in 1986?
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  When The 'Tower Is Mentioned In A Will

  by NotFormer in

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  i assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.

  an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.

  what is the procedure?.

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  NotFormer

  What about in the USA? Who turns up at the will reading to represent the WT?
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  The New Busy Work

  by NotFormer in

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  for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.

  that avenue is drying up.

  and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.

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  NotFormer

  KerryKing, what a nice idea! 🥲
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  The New Busy Work

  by NotFormer in

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  for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.

  that avenue is drying up.

  and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.

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  NotFormer

  Phizzy, correct, they need more busy work to keep the sheep from having time to think. When they were a publishing corporation , the publishers were door to door sales people, the Kingdom Halls were distribution warehouses, the meetings were product familiarisation seminars and the busy work was all about shifting product.

  Now that they don't sell stuff door to door, what do the 8 million former sales staff do?
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  The New Busy Work

  by NotFormer in

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  for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.

  that avenue is drying up.

  and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.

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  NotFormer

  nowwhat? Of course it's a dumb idea. It's a tongue-in-cheek "what if?" scenario. There's no way a high control group like the GB would allow even the slightest involvement of the R&F in what is their sole fiefdom. The original post was meant to stimulate discussion as to why it would never work, not an invitation to personal abuse.
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  When The 'Tower Is Mentioned In A Will

  by NotFormer in

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  i assume someone from wt attends the reading of the will.

  an elder, a co, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?.

  what is the procedure?.

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  NotFormer

  I assume someone from WT attends the reading of the will. Who is it? An elder, a CO, some especially selected person from the branch under whose purview this sort of thing is maintained?

  What is the procedure?
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  The New Busy Work

  by NotFormer in

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  for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.

  that avenue is drying up.

  and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.

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  NotFormer

  For a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door. That avenue is drying up. And policy is changing.

  The WT needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.

  The WT fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio. Why not encourage local congregations to also start making amateur video productions and upload them to YouTube? You can produce half decent content with little more than a phone. WT could handout suggested plots, Q&A suggestions, specific Bible dramas etc, along with guidelines: what should be said, what can't be said and leaving a bit of wiggle room for creativity and embellishment. Nothing gets uploaded without CO approval.

  It could create a new level of engagement within the congregations and it goes without saying that new "privileges" will emerge that people can vie for. It would also create a new recruiting ground for Bethel. In the old days Bethel was a printing works. Now it could be seen as Jehovah's answer to Hollywood.
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  The Jehovah's Witness religion has ''Jumped the Shark''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  what does jump the shark mean?.

  the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.

  it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.

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  NotFormer

  "Actually, they had very little time to "sit" as they were busy with the "privilege" of shoveling up the manure"

  This is part of the genius of the WT. The busy work of going door to door was enough to distract from the fact that the end didn't come during several lifetimes.
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  Remember the old governing body ...pics! R.I.P.

  by Witness 007 in

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  NotFormer

  Irony can be fun. Rutherford expected to outlive the governments of the world; he didn't even live to see the end of Hitler's government!
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  Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?

  by Ron.W. in

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  yes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?

  they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?

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  NotFormer

  Magnum, Mussolini made the trains run on time by figuring out what time the trains were actually arriving and adjusting the timetables accordingly.

  Not sure how to stretch any analogy to the GB's situation though. 🤔 Apart from them being a bunch of fascists...