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  Still Confused About The FDS

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  this was prompted by another thread where it was revealed that the gb were referred to as "our future kings" in a wt video.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4911685446402048/fun-moment.

  if i've got it right, the 144,000 are (or were until recently) the fds.

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  DesirousOfChange: "Evidently that changed to it being ONLY the GB when the "F&D Slave" was named in a lawsuit and served to one of those claiming to be of the "remnant"."

  Is it just me, or does that not sound like a bit of a dick move?
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  How has 3 years of inflation affected WTC?

  by ThomasMore in

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  2. current

  the current u.s. administration and the fed says inflation is hard to tame.

  it was over 9% at it's peak.

  one of the greatest increases is price of food, something that everyone feels to some extent.

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  NotFormer

  They used to be able to afford 22,312* FDS. That had to drop down to just 9.

  *2023 memorial partakers.
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  John 1:1 in Coptic Translation

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently there has been quite a stir in jw apologetic circles recently about the translation of john 1:1 in the early sahidic version of john.

  i don't know if this has been discussed here before - if someone could give a link to a previous thread they know about on the subject that would be great.

  here is what i gather: .

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  NotFormer

  "Jehovah's Vandals" has a nice ring to it. 👍
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  UK BETHEL INAGUARATION 2024

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/oayukvpgoxw?si=g2020ba-xd2kytxi.

  this is the 20 min review audio of the 3 hour inaguaration of the british bethel that took place few days ago....

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  NotFormer

  Diogenesister: "Someone on the You tube comments said when you see the number of girls doing all the construction, allowing them to wear the trousers suddenly makes sense"

  What happened to the good old days,

  When girls wore skirts and blouses?

  Now they work construction sites,

  And dress themselves in trousers!
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  Telluric movements in the branch committees

  by Jalisco in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently a gilead graduate from a latin american country told me that the gilead school now trains branch committee members rather than missionaries because there are centrifugal forces there... this made me remember a paragraph from a watchtower from years ago which i hang below.

  in confirmation of this, i have learned, in the few contacts that i have, that in athens there is a problem in the committee and they sent the coordinator of another branch.

  very recently, 2 members of the ecuador branch committee left and one left the organization and is an "apostate"..even though he graduated from gilead 8 months ago.. something is happening.... here's the paragraph that turned a red light on when i read it.... watchtower 11/2016 page 11. do we follow the instructions?11.

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  NotFormer

  In that legal filing above, I note: "DOES 1-5 whose identities are unknown to the plaintiff". How accurately targeted must these filings be to go forward? Do a lot of anti-WT cases get thrown out simply because the plaintiff doesn't know which individuals or entities are the right ones to sue or otherwise pursue?
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  Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

  even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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  NotFormer

  "I met one in a porn peep shop-big surprise and the 2 witness rule saved both us."

  Ron.W.: "That's tremendous!!"

  That's the two witnesses rule working as intended. It's not a bug, but a feature. 🙄
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  Kingdom Hall Insurance

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  that the wt "self insures" kingdom halls has come up in occasional conversations on here.

  how exactly does that work?

  do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each kingdom hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc.

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  Is a CSA suit "an accident"? 🙄😱

  "...lawsuits brought by persons upset over judicial actions" Was this common? Was it ever successful?
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  Why Was WT OK with Blood Transfusions for over 65 Years Before Banning?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  blood transfusion history.

  1665 the first recorded successful blood transfusion occurs in england: physician richard lower keeps dogs alive by transfusion of blood from other dogs.. 1818 james blundell performs the first successful blood transfusion of human blood to treat postpartum hemorrhage.. 1840 the first whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia is successfully completed.. 1900 karl landsteiner discovers the first three human blood groups, a, b and o.. 1902 landsteiner’s colleagues, alfred decastello and adriano sturli, add a fourth blood type, ab.. 1907 blood typing and cross matching between donors and patients is attempted to improve the safety of transfusions.

  the universality of the o blood group is identified.. 1914 adolf hustin discovers that sodium citrate can anticoagulate blood for transfusion, allowing it to be stored and later transfused safely to patients on the battlefield.. 1932 the first blood bank is established at leningrad hospital.. 1939-1940 the rh blood group is discovered and recognized as the cause behind most transfusion reactions.. 1940 the us government establishes a nationwide blood collection program.. so from the beginning of the watchtower being printed in 1879, they were ok with blood transfusions until 1945. what caused this?

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  NotFormer

  I've had JWs tell me that transfusions didn't happen up until the time the WT banned them. IOW, the technology was banned the year it became a thing. I pointed out that it had been available at least since before WWI. And that the ban hadn't started until 1945*.

  *Conveniently, after Rutherford's death.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  NotFormer

  What is inexcusable is to know that and be making promises that you'll bring it about, if people donate money to you.

  Isn't that somewhat what the WT does?
  
  
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  Overlapping Generation

  by pandorasbox1914 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.

  his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .

  no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.

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  NotFormer

  My Generation by The Who:

  People try to put us d-down (talkin' 'bout my generation)

  Just because we get around (talkin' 'bout my generation)

  Things they do look awful c-c-cold (talkin' 'bout my generation)

  I hope I die before I get old* (talkin' 'bout my generation)

  *Apparently a hope within some JW circles 😳 Mentioned in this thread: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6028430898888704/jw-murders-wife-mother-law