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  Blondie's "highlights" from the May 2024 Study WT Paragraphs 1-10

  by blondie in

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  i have not read a wt for many years, but a comment on jwn prompted me to check out this one study article #19. i was stunned, they addressed many observations i have made in the "comments you will not hear" over the years.

  this segment will contain comments on the section called what we do not know paragraphs 1 through 10. i will post what we do know” in another original post covering paragraphs 11 through 17”.

  1) definition of "king of the south" and "king of the north.

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  NotFormer

  I agree with Atlantis. Great to see you posting this sort of thing again, Blondie! 👌👍🖖
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  JW s were here today with convention invite

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.

  i am in the yard.

  the gals get out and are wearing pants.

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  NotFormer

  "Even the literature now resembles North Korean propaganda"

  The latest stuff turns two millennia of understanding of passages about showing kindness to others (the Good Samaritan, be doers of the word, etc.) and focuses those to being about "supporting" Jesus' brothers*, i.e. the GB.

  *Their twisting of that term. For two thousand years Jesus' brothers have always** been understood as being the followers of Jesus. It was Rutherford who created the two-tier, two-caste system out of whole cloth.

  ** One of the apologists for the Watchtower understanding digging out a quote from some obscure church father notwithstanding.
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  There is no 1900 year old faithful and discreet slave

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that the long-expected kingdom had become an established reality in heaven, surely its growing interests in the earth after 1919 would not be left in the hands of a novice organization of spiritual babes.

  and that proved to be true.

  it was the 1900-year-old “faithful and discreet slave,” the old christian congregation, that was entrusted with this precious kingdom service.

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  NotFormer

  "Now I know that there have always been anointed ones on earth for the last 1900 years..."

  BTW, I'm betting on a change of doctrine on the 144,000/FDS/annointed/Jesus' brothers thing. The way they've been spinning things lately, I reckon that eventually only the GB will be the representative of any of those classes (if there was any difference between them).
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  There is no 1900 year old faithful and discreet slave

  by Longlivetherenegades in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  now that the long-expected kingdom had become an established reality in heaven, surely its growing interests in the earth after 1919 would not be left in the hands of a novice organization of spiritual babes.

  and that proved to be true.

  it was the 1900-year-old “faithful and discreet slave,” the old christian congregation, that was entrusted with this precious kingdom service.

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  NotFormer

  "Now I know that there have always been anointed ones on earth for the last 1900 years, but recently we said that there has not been a faithful and discreet slave providing spiritual food at the proper time during the last 1900 years. Now, what’s the thinking behind that? Why did we change our view on that?"

  Because of the obvious question: so who was fulfilling that role before Russell, later 1919? "Jehovah has always had an organisation". What was that organisation before Russell? I've since been told that the correct position was: "Jehovah has always worked through an organisation" and now they're saying there wasn't one for two thousand years.

  So God has taken off two of the six thousand year days since creation and has been doing nothing. I thought that the millennium was meant to symbolise God's day off after the sixth day. Which backs up this declaration by KalebOutWest:

  "The above proves something very true and inarguably about Jehovah's Witnesses: they are an ad-hoc religion.

  "They say and make up things as they go...

  "Why would anyone join you? There's nothing to believe in, you idiots! You keep changing things! Why would anyone join a system with constantly changing beliefs? That means there is nothing there!"
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  JWs obtaining fake degrees from a US institution to teach English as a foreign language

  by truthseeker in

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  teaching english as a foreign language in asian countries is quite popular for those looking to travel and explore and make some money.

  if you have the tefl qualification you're pretty much good to go and don't need a degree.i don't know how lucrative these overseas jobs are but i do know one jw from my congregation in england who decided to move to the caribbean and teach english as a foreign language.

  i'm not knocking this individual.

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  NotFormer

  Rivergang, isn't that just part of a theme park?
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  BBC poor grammar - but FUNNY!

  by BoogerMan in

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  "hamburg police shoot man with axe ahead of euros match.

  " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news.

  why don't german police just use guns?.

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  NotFormer

  Listener, yes, and they used to have sub-editors who went through articles with a fine-toothed comb.
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  JW s were here today with convention invite

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought i would tell this story: 2 gals and a guy came by with invitation to convention.

  i am in the yard.

  the gals get out and are wearing pants.

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  NotFormer

  Is a convention invitation extended to people outside the organisation? I thought it was a JW only thing (or is it the assemblies that are exclusive?). Do they go door to door handing out invitations?
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  What is that?

  by Achille in

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  NotFormer

  BTW folks, remember that the Good Samaritan story isn't about showing kindness to strangers, its true message is about sacrificing your resources to ensure the health and wellbeing of the GB. 🙄
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  Deep study

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wifes friend had to go home to deep study the sunday article.

  does that mean not skimming headings?

  the last deep thing i remember was babylon book and it was a perfect fit except none of it came true.

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  NotFormer

  I'll agree with you, Seabreeze. I've been exposed to various end times interpretations, which inevitably involve interpreting Revelation, over the years. Preterist, historicist, dispensational, pre-trib/mid-trib/post-trib rapture, amillenial, post millennial and so on. They all make interesting points and all of them come with flaws, usually to do with what's interpreted as literal or figurative, as you point out.

  As a young bloke, I tried, many times, to read You Can Live Forever In Paradise On Earth, even in the context of "Well, it's something to read". It was disjointed and all over the place. A dog's breakfast of inconsistencies and weird parallels. It also didn't pick up on points that it could have made.

  To be fair, I found the Seventh Day Adventist interpretation equally confusing. I suppose that that should be expected since the two eschatologies grew from the same root.
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  BBC poor grammar - but FUNNY!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. current

  "hamburg police shoot man with axe ahead of euros match.

  " https://www.bbc.co.uk/news.

  why don't german police just use guns?.

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  NotFormer

  How is journalism done these days? From the prevalence of dumb, easily spotted mistakes, I'd guess that it's voice to text with very little checking. It probably doesn't help that a lot of "helpful" programs with autocorrect will change things while and after writing.