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  new book

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you may be interested in this research: https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2024/12/grave-matters.html.

  this is a brief history of the watch tower cemetery where russell is buried.

  i read it this morning.

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  NotFormer

  "I'm thinin' it's a typo."

  "I'll do the thinin around here!" - Quick Draw McGraw

  (Sorry 😟 😞 in advance)
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  I've done it: Christmas Lights Outside

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  lets see if that causes a problem.

  i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.

  lets see what happens.

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  NotFormer

  I had a bit more of a look into it and it didn't get any clearer 😕. The original prohibition was against "hot drinks", which was later clarified to mean coffee ☕ and tea 🍵. Modern Mormons apparently argue over the whole issue. Some won't drink caffeinated beverages of any sort, some probably don't drink decaf, others do.

  It can be a problem when a founder creates an immutable law that doesn't make sense as society progresses. The SDAs probably find it with some of White's "revelations". The whole vegetarian thing was founded on the belief that a meat rich diet made one strong and virile, and it also provided fuel for the baser passions. Their vegetarian diet was deliberately intended to make people weaker, who would therefore have less energy to channel towards those baser passions.

  Interestingly, defying the above rules would probably be seen as "following the world" by devout practitioners of the above faiths. And to an outsider, one who'd never been in, such a view would make as much sense as Rattigan's stance on Christmas lights.
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  Who Directs the Activitie$ and Doctrines of the Hovering Body?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah’s witnesses boast that theirs is a “spirit-directed organization”.. see w88 3/1 pp.

  10-17 (my life in jehovah’s spirit-directed organization).

  they believe that their deceased founder, charles taze russell (who faced legal action by his wife for inappropriate behavior in his maids bedroom), is directing the modern-day work of jehovah’s witnesses.. after the founder, c t russell died, it was stated that he was still directing the work from heaven.. "though pastor russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the harvest work.

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  NotFormer

  stan livedeath, yes, I know that nobody* knows. On your part, it was just a tongue in cheek comment based on the fact that Tony has been so effectively "disappeared", that even the mob would be proud.

  * Nobody who's ever going to tell. Given the way Bethel leaks, it's impressive how well they've kept a lid on it.
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  Prepare to get Pelted by Symbolic Hailstones

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/idhmflud3p4?si=9xc4svrhxslduwvz.

  so david schafer a member of the teaching commitee and a helper to the governing body has come out yesterday with a new video that goes through the king of the north, the hailstones message and other things in the wake of the possibility of a ww3 and especially now that tensions are escalating with russia so he is making quite a few end time arguments and i will be expanding on those one by one but today let's see what he has about the hailstones message of the end(video) so this is the paragraph in question, paragraph 14 from article 20 of the watchtower 2020 study edition: "sometime after the start of the great tribulation, “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will form a coalition of nations.

  (rev.

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  NotFormer

  Man, even a poor old ginger cat gets clobbered at Armageddon! 😳🙀
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  Disaster aid

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yesterday's wt study; giving to help others of course mentioned contributions to jw.org.

  the example was covid.

  what a crock.

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  NotFormer

  "I'm sure any good produce was skimmed by the bigwig elders."

  I imagine that widows and orphans were far down the pecking order. 🙄
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  I've done it: Christmas Lights Outside

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  lets see if that causes a problem.

  i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.

  lets see what happens.

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  NotFormer

  From my discussions with Mormons, Pepsi is fine*. It's another one of those points where a high control religion demonstrates inconsistency. We outsiders see their prohibition of tea and coffee and logically project that it is a prohibition on caffeine. So, back in the day when the Mormon church supposedly owned PepsiCo**, I brought it up and they said "So what?" The prohibition by JS himself is not on Pepsi, but on tea and coffee alone. Apparently the Mormon church is not bound by the "ejusdem generis" principle. Mormons can happily knock back Pepsi by the gallon. We outsiders might wonder if there's any cognitive dissonance going on, but they're right: Pepsi isn't tea or coffee.

  * If anyone knows better, let me know

  ** Probably an urban myth of the time
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  Hitler--v Trump

  by stan livedeath in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcdx2g31ww.

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  NotFormer

  But I thought Trump is literally...*?

  * Not my opinion. I've just heard it said, once or twice 🙄
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  Suing the Borg

  by JohnR1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what would be the best way to start suing the borg?.

  what kind of evidence would you need for this elf is still physically in?.

  here is someone suing them https://youtu.be/wr2dpxm7cc0.

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  NotFormer

  Suing the WT would probably only work to bring them down if you had deeper pockets than them.
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  I've done it: Christmas Lights Outside

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  lets see if that causes a problem.

  i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.

  lets see what happens.

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  NotFormer

  Rattigan succeeded in making this thread about himself.

  To the WT, having fun is "worldly". Christmas lights are fun, therefore worldly. 🙄
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  Who Directs the Activitie$ and Doctrines of the Hovering Body?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jehovah’s witnesses boast that theirs is a “spirit-directed organization”.. see w88 3/1 pp.

  10-17 (my life in jehovah’s spirit-directed organization).

  they believe that their deceased founder, charles taze russell (who faced legal action by his wife for inappropriate behavior in his maids bedroom), is directing the modern-day work of jehovah’s witnesses.. after the founder, c t russell died, it was stated that he was still directing the work from heaven.. "though pastor russell has passed beyond the veil, he is still managing every feature of the harvest work.

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  NotFormer

  Vanderhoven7, I wanted to upvote your post, but that photo and the reference to future kings makes me feel ill 🤢.

  Edited to add: I held my nose and upvoted anyway.