Posts by NotFormer

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Doctrines and Bible Interpretations

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if ex's and formers who are not church christians, believe that many of jws' doctrines and bible interpretations are correct, or do you feel that they aren't?

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NotFormer

Elderberry, JWs aren't the only ones who entertain the possibility that Michael could be Jesus. Here is a SDA article: https://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/materials/is-michael-another-name-for-jesus/

I'm pretty sure that I've heard Christadelphians refer to Jesus as Michael, which means that that is probably where Russell got the idea from. I also know of individual writers from mainstream Christianity who entertain the possibility. But it doesn't seem to be a tightly held doctrine in most denominations.

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Attention: Active Jehovah's Witness Parents

by Sea Breeze in

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this young jw lady was shunned by her parents since she was 18 or 19 years old.

she was befriended by the older man that you see in the picture.

perhaps you recognize him?

NotFormer

BoogerMan, the initials on the plane are JE, for Epstein himself, but I can certainly see what you're talking about! There's a certain subliminal feel to it, even though it can't in actuality be any more than coincidence.

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Any other churches call themselves the 'truth'??

by Beck_Melbourne in

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old habits die hard...and quite often in my comments i will refer to the borg as the 'truth'.

does anyone know of any other churches that refer to their own particular church or religion as the 'truth'??

also, does anyone know how it originated...all my life i have used the term...comments like 'how long have u been in the truth?

NotFormer

slimboyfat (everytime I read your name, I hear "Weapon of Choice going through my head 😸): I thought if anyone could confirm that, it'd be you 👍

Jan, we mainstream Christians tend to refer to Jesus as "the Truth" (John 14:6), not our denominations.

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JW Conman on Loose - He & Followers tried to 'evict' Bank of America.

by skeeter1 in

pitchman now federal fugitive: federal authorities are looking for fugitive angel cruz, who led followers to try to 'evict' a palmetto bay bank of america.mon.

november 24, 2008; posted: 01:11 am todays top stocks.

click herenov 24, 2008 (the miami herald - mcclatchy-tribune information services via comtex) -- bac | quote | chart | news | powerrating -- passionately and to help many of his followers, angel cruz championed an unorthodox business network for the downtrodden who he believed were bullied by a corrupt u.s. banking system.

NotFormer

I became aware of Angel Cruz and his "In Jehovah We Trust" scam when I was just looking up private currencies. I looked him up on here, and sure enough, there he is. The article I read didn't actually identify him as a JW, but apparently he was. So BTTT with this post.

BTW, he managed to avoid capture for some time. He wasn't caught until 2020.

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Ken and Barbie

by peacefulpete in

forgive the insensitivity of this but does the wt imagine the "resurrected" bodies of the dead will have useless genitalia?

or will the humans 2.0 have the smooth appearance of a ken doll or the nipple-less breasts of a barbie.

any breasts at all?

NotFormer

I'm aware of the discrepancies, Seabreeze. My question is to mainly point out the logical shortcomings of what I understand to be the WT position. Or at least, what I've been told in discussions on my doorstep. 🙋 As someone who was never a JW, I could be wrong as to what they really say about it all. That being said, I feel like the WT has always been deliberately vague about how the new system is supposed to work. 🤔

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Is There Going to be Money in the New System?

by NotFormer in

if not, what's in it for the gb?.

but seriously, how is it supposed to work?

pictures of jws in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses.

NotFormer

If not, what's in it for the GB?

But seriously, how is it supposed to work? Pictures of JWs in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses. They still have to eat. The distribution of labour between various projects, needs and priorities has to be rationed out somehow. That's the role of money in the current system. Something like it would have to take its place. Unless the plan is abject slavery. (It's not like the GB hasn't already been grooming the JWs to think of themselves as slaves)

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Ken and Barbie

by peacefulpete in

forgive the insensitivity of this but does the wt imagine the "resurrected" bodies of the dead will have useless genitalia?

or will the humans 2.0 have the smooth appearance of a ken doll or the nipple-less breasts of a barbie.

any breasts at all?

NotFormer

"They will have children.

Must be frutiful and fill the earth."

I was under the impression that those who survive the big A will be spending the Millennium preparing the earth for the resurrection of pretty well everyone who died in Armageddon. 8bn people divided by 1000 years means around 8000000 people per year for whom housing must be provided (remember all those vision of paradise pictures of JWs building houses during the Millennium?) The faithful survivors will be too busy to be having children and raising them. Besides, why do you need to have children when 8bn people are about to arrive on the scene? And why does the earth need to be repopulated when you already have 8bn people?

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BadAss Bethelites, did they really peak in the 1960's?

by was a new boy in

in the 70's a bethel elder told me that every morning in the 60's the paint and scaffold crew, (which was located on the 5th floor of building 4) would go up to the roof and walk around the perimeter on top of the ledge, which i doubt was more than 12" wide.

then they'd go render sacred service to jehovah..

NotFormer

"Diogenesister, my last contact with Bethelites, they joked that they had a betting pool as to how long a unmarried "sister" at Bethel would last as unmarried, it turned out it was six months."

Wow, Diogenesister, you could have not only had new socks, but a new husband! 🙋🧦

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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?

by Sea Breeze in

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friends

found this on fb from the recent losch talk.

time for a new business model?.

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NotFormer

I thought of a membership fee when I was posting about whether or not the GB will implement tithing. I wasn't sure how they could really impose it, since there are no groups in mainstream Christianity that I know of that do it*.

That that is how modern Judaism works is interesting, but I can't see the WT appealing to their customs to convince the slaves.

*There are high control groups and churches that check people's payslips to ensure that they are tithing the correct amount, but most mainstream groups operate on a free-will offering basis.

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New meeting format

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

just watched november broadcast very different order to the leaked agm .

be good if someone did a deep dive on the difference and why the changes?

i didn’t time the items but it should be easy to see if edited?.

NotFormer

"Confusing mess" seems to be the order of the day. No-one seems absolutely clear on what is really going on. Taking "pledges" may be a step along the road towards something more concrete. Is there anything to really stop them adopting tithing or something like it as a model? They are, after all, a high control group, which hasn't been afraid in the past to tell members how to order their personal affairs, including in the financial realm. If they squeeze the membership on this, perhaps they'll lose a few hangers on initially, but we know from past experience that there is always that loyal core that will take whatever they dish out.

Perhaps they have crunched the numbers and figured they will gain more than enough from squeezing the loyal core to offset what they will lose with a slight exodus of those who have had enough.