It certainly sounds ominous; are they planning to tighten the obedience screws in some abhorrent way, or is this their normal out of touch paranoia speaking?
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This week’s watchtower 🤬
by MissDaSilva injust been watching a youtube video by jw escape, lovely lady.
the subject was this weeks watchtower - “are you ready to obey?”.
what a blatant psyop this is.
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FDS 1919 Declaration Date
by NotFormer indid rutherford have any "prophetic" justification for 1919 as the date that jesus declared him (ahem, the wt organisation) the fds?
such as some calculation attached to 1914?
that in 1919, jesus would come looking for his true organisation?.
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"For example, during the early part of the COVID-19 pandemic when we were asked to stop meeting at our Kingdom Halls and to suspend our house-to-house ministry, did you struggle to obey?"
Considering how central and sacrosanct those are to the WT, I'm not surprised if ordinary JWs struggled to accept a complete 180 from everything they had been told to hold dear!
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Unacceptable type/antitype for JW'S.....
by BoogerMan in.........because it would cancel out their "upper & lower class christians" fairy story - aka the anointed & non-anointed.. antitype: the fleshly nation of israel and exodus foreigner converts were participants of the mosaic covenant.. type: christianity - the israel of god ("spiritual israel") and gentile converts became participants in the new covenant..
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ThomasMore, he was certainly a one for pulling crazy ideas out of a hat. I miss Farkel; his takes on da Judge were hilarious.
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The "Problem" With Zoom
by XBEHERE inhere is the org's problem with zoom, attending this way does not fit with their "scriptural definition" of a christian gathering.
at least not anymore, one thing my pimi wife is fine with is attending on zoom occasionally, even 2-3 times a month or so.. if some of you recall, during covid there were break out rooms setup for people to stay on and associate.
many would also stay in the main meeting and talk over each other trying to say hello, etc.
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NotFormer
Vidiot, there are many YouTube videos out there about the changing workplaces of the corporate world. Joshua Fluke is a reasonable channel.
Both the WT and strong hands on management are experiencing similar shifts in outcomes.
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Unacceptable type/antitype for JW'S.....
by BoogerMan in.........because it would cancel out their "upper & lower class christians" fairy story - aka the anointed & non-anointed.. antitype: the fleshly nation of israel and exodus foreigner converts were participants of the mosaic covenant.. type: christianity - the israel of god ("spiritual israel") and gentile converts became participants in the new covenant..
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NotFormer
In my understanding, the two class system was made from whole cloth by da Judge. Russell had both the 144000 and the great crowd in Heaven. Rutherford created the heavenly reward for himself and his mates only. Then, he realised that there was no incentive, no carrot, for the grunts whom he expected to carry the load going forward. So he hastily cobbled together "da Paradise Erf" to give the lower class something to work for.
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FDS 1919 Declaration Date
by NotFormer indid rutherford have any "prophetic" justification for 1919 as the date that jesus declared him (ahem, the wt organisation) the fds?
such as some calculation attached to 1914?
that in 1919, jesus would come looking for his true organisation?.
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NotFormer
Beth Sarim, what does it say?
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Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination
by Tahoe inhttps://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .
the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.
they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.
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NotFormer
From that thread: "What if it’s the JW organization that’s destroyed while all other religions are left standing?"
Turnabout is fair play.
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Jehovah's Witnesses suing Dutch State for discrimination
by Tahoe inhttps://nltimes.nl/2023/12/11/jehovahs-witnesses-suing-dutch-state-discrimination .
the jehovah’s witnesses have sued the dutch state for discrimination, the religious organization informed trouw.
they consider it discriminatory that the government investigated them, but no other religious organization, for their handling of sexual abuse cases.. utrecht university conducted the investigation involved, following publications in trouw in which sexual abuse victims within the jehovah’s witnesses described what happened to them, and published the results in january 2020. utrecht university concluded that 60 percent of sexual abuse victims were very critical of how the jehovah’s witnesses handled their cases, scoring the handling a 1 out of 10. many victims were traumatized by how things were handled, the researchers said.. sander dekker, then the minster for legal protection, ordered the investigation at parliament’s insistence because the jehovah’s witnesses failed to arrange an investigation themselves, as the catholic church did at the time with the deetman commission.. the jehovah’s witnesses cooperated in the utrecht university investigation but unsuccessfully tried to stop the publication of its results.
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NotFormer
"Vidiot, your comments are spot-on, and very astute. I really enjoy your comments"
I like his face.
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Diogenes and Jesus
by NotFormer inthe greek philosopher diogenes supposedly wandered around carrying a lit lantern, purportedly looking for an honest man.
in 1919, the watchtower jesus supposedly wandered around looking for a religion that had "the truth"..
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NotFormer
The Greek philosopher Diogenes supposedly wandered around carrying a lit lantern, purportedly looking for an honest man. In 1919, the Watchtower Jesus supposedly wandered around looking for a religion that had "The Truth".
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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”
by Athanasius inthe watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?
in my dreams i saw the carts.
they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.
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NotFormer
Ding: "They'll stress that Jehovah knows how much or how little you're doing..."
Which is why it never made sense to me for them to record hours in the first place. If Jehovah is able to keep a detailed record of every human being in order to resurrect them from his memory (my understanding of that particular doctrine), then why can't he keep track of every JWs witnessing activities? And why does the WT feel that Jehovah is so incompetent that he needs their earthly administrative aid?