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  The Apostates' Handy JW Glossary

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. social
  2. current

  perhaps this has been printed here before...but still it gave me a few laughs...so here it is again.. the apostates' handy jw glossary.

  by doug checketts.

  "anointed" - an experience that, unfortunately, no "anointed" one has ever been able to explain.

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  NotFormer

  Is "ones" in that list? There always seems to be a mention of some sort of "ones" with an adjectival epithet attached, like "faithful ones" , "loyal ones", etc.
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  The GB seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment. Bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "Joe Citizen".

  Further, TM3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as I understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that TM3's "ass is grass". It's no secret that there is a lot of hostility focused in their direction.

  So, are they doubling down on their isolationism, cutting themselves off further from any ordinary encounters with the outside world that they might previously have had? If so, are they right to do so? Has the world become that little bit more dangerous for them?
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  Elders testing some promising men by talking like an apostate?

  by Person in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  couple years ago as a promising ms i had some weird conversations with two young elders.

  it was always as we where alone only i and the elder.

  they would initiate a conversations about things like blood doctrine, celebrating birthdays, view on homosexuality etc.

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  NotFormer

  I was just looking at the lyrics of Walk Like An Egyptian, to try and create a "Talk Like An Apostate" parody, but it was a bit too complex to pull off 😞.

  It reminds me of all those fake questions posed by loyal JWs on Quora, the ones that are supposedly by apostates asking gotcha questions, but are just a straw man to be knocked down by the loyal ones.

  It makes you wonder how loyal those loyal ones are, really. By WT rules, they shouldn't be engaging at all with people whom they consider to be apostates.

  Interestingly, any elders who are going to try these "sting operation" tactics have to be able to get the right sorts of doubts to sound like they might be sincerely questioning; are they reading "apostate" literature and sites to find the right kinds of questions?
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  Jehovah and Pleiades

  by James Brown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone remember seeing old watchtowers in their kingdom hall library before they destroyed them all, of the watchtower annoucing jehovah from pleiades kingdom.

  i am 72 years old and i remeber seeing these old magazines somewhere..

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  NotFormer

  I've got a feeling that it was Rutherford trying his hand at spinning weird crap, Russell style (cf. pyramids and such), before he went full CEO mode.
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  NotFormer

  "I wonder if those who are staying at the banned hotels will be shocked it’s full of other naughty witnesses"

  Who's going to be dobbing who into the WT?
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  Stay Sweet Pray an Obey documentary

  by moomanchu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  started watching this documentary on the fdls polygamist mormons.

  usual cult stuff that is familiar.

  in episode 1 the abused women talk about things they enjoyed.

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  NotFormer

  "Here we have a CONVICTED PEDOPHILE, rotting in jail........and he passes his decrees to his followers outside every week and they OBEY without question"

  That only needs to be modified slightly to make it refer to the GB: "Here we have the enablers of convicted paedophiles, cordoned off from the world in their compound... and they pass their decrees to their followers outside every week and they OBEY without question ".

  Interestingly, there is little difference between cult leaders directing their cult from jail or from a secure compound.
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  JEHOVAH'S WITNESS IS TAKING SPAIN TO COURT OVER A BLOOD TRANSFUSION THAT SAVED HER LIFE

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this article is behind a paywall: .

  https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2024/01/10/jehovahs-witness-is-taking-spain-to-court-over-a-blood-transfusion-that-saved-her-life/ .

  tahoe .

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  The Red Cross should sue her to get their blood back!
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  A new ruling from a Madrid court supports that the Jehovah's Witnesses can be called an "extremist and destructive sect"

  by was a new boy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  a new ruling from a madrid court supports that the jehovah's witnesses can be called an "extremist and destructive sect".

  mc | efenews10.01.2024 - 16:51h the former adept gabriel pedrero was denounced for publishing that "they have blood on their hands.

  "the young man has also sued the organization for sexual abuse and is awaiting trial.

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  NotFormer

  Spain: 1, Watchtower bull(y): Nil

  ¡Ole!
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  Jehovah and Pleiades

  by James Brown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does anyone remember seeing old watchtowers in their kingdom hall library before they destroyed them all, of the watchtower annoucing jehovah from pleiades kingdom.

  i am 72 years old and i remeber seeing these old magazines somewhere..

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  NotFormer

  Well that answers the question I asked on another thread about whether or not the whole Alcyone thing had any biblical weight. Apart from being the main star in the Pleiades (which are mentioned) it's a projection from astronomy.
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  Smoking

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences?

  given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?.

  *even mainstream christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the holy spirit.

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  NotFormer

  Is it likely to be removed from the list of disfellowshippable offences? Given that the ban on smoking 🚬 is completely unbiblical*, might they ever remove it?

  *Even mainstream Christianity can only come up with one verse "against" it, the one that says that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. But on that basis, eating too much fatty or sugary food is equally sinful.