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  Governing Body's failed doctrines blamed on Jehovah's gradual revealment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh9w8zmgli0.

  ( starts at the 21:00 minute mark ) governing body member jeffrey winder reveals the real reason for the failed doctrines throughout the watchtower's 150 year history.

  he claims that the governing body are neither inspired or infallible.. the governing body do not need to apologize for getting doctrines wrong.. the governing body ''do their best with what they have and what they understand at the time.''.

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  "He reveals it gradually and at a time it is needed"

  Like ratcheting back the shunning in the face of government interest? Like the pressures they're now facing over blood and the two witnesses rule in CSA cases?
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Vidiot: "Simply the fact that they can keep on doing it without having a nervous fucking breakdown"

  I wonder how medicated they are?

  Bottlegate suggests that Tony may have been self-medicating (that is if all those bottles were for him. Diogenesister made the point that he could have been stocking up for a large party, eg. a major anniversary, which is not outside the realms of possibility).

  The GB's medical records would be interesting; does Vidiot's hypothesised "they know it's wrong but believe it's true" situation translate into mental health issues that medication can make "go away" to some extent? We'll never see those, and they still are human beings with a certain right to privacy.

  Still, it's interesting to speculate about some future time when the WT bunker is torn down (end of Nazi Germany, Soviet Union and Berlin Wall style) and the files released to historians. I imagine that the mental health of the GB and their administrative circle would make for some interesting theses.
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  My grandmother called my mother

  by Anony Mous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i’m just posting this as a warning to lurking jws.

  if you’re still on the fence, here is a story.. my grandmother, now in her 80s hasn’t talked to anyone in the family for over 20 years ever since my mother was the last one of her children that left ‘the truth’, she had sent my mother a card to never talk to her again.

  so here we are 21 years later, she gets a call out of the blue that she needed help, she hadn’t been able to get into her kitchen.

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  So only kindness shown to the 144000, not the broad congregation, warrants God's favour?
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  More victory for Ex-JWs in B.C. Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-jehovahs-witness-privacy-battle-1.7079252.

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  There are plenty of biblical passages about wearing the consequences of your actions: sowing and reaping, for example. I wonder if they'll make the connection?
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  My grandmother called my mother

  by Anony Mous in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so, i’m just posting this as a warning to lurking jws.

  if you’re still on the fence, here is a story.. my grandmother, now in her 80s hasn’t talked to anyone in the family for over 20 years ever since my mother was the last one of her children that left ‘the truth’, she had sent my mother a card to never talk to her again.

  so here we are 21 years later, she gets a call out of the blue that she needed help, she hadn’t been able to get into her kitchen.

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  How do they reconcile their behaviour with the sheep 🐑 and goats 🐐 passage? The sheep 🐑 were identified by how they treated the least of Jesus's brethren, especially visiting them when sick. Don't tell me, there's some f***ed up JW doctrine that only the anointed count as Jesus' brethren, so you can treat everyone else however you damned well like!
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  Thoughts on annual meeting “new light”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, i finally saw the annual meeting video part 2.. this is the one with the “new light” on who might survive armageddon, vs. those who do not.. in summary, for those of you fortunate enough not to have to sit through it, it’s something like this:.

  old light: once the “great tribulation” starts, that’s it for non-jws.

  the “door of the ark” is closed.

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  ElderBerry: "The first talk Br Winder said something about Jehovah couldn’t reveal all his plans to Abraham because he was too stupid. Or words to that effect which is very patronising to Abraham."

  New light: The GB were too stupid to have everything fully revealed to them.
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  More victory for Ex-JWs in B.C. Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-jehovahs-witness-privacy-battle-1.7079252.

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  NotFormer

  I've never understood why they were so meticulous about keeping records that they knew could be used against them if they ever came to light. If they wanted to keep everything on the QT, they should never have committed anything to writing.
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  JW prepper fiction

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there have been a few fictional books written about jw interpretations of the future.

  one brother called ek johnson has written a few jw prepper fictional books based on jw timeline of events great tribulation and all.. i love prepper fiction particularly post apocalyptic prepper fiction but not zombie fiction i’m fed up of those.

  i view jw fiction the same as the rest, just like any good fiction.

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  NotFormer

  Blondie, I think the story on the right is the one I remember.
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  Is The GB Paranoid? And Should They Be?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the gb seems to have a bunker mentality, that they are special, and that the world is out to get them, so they tend to keep within their tightly controlled, protective environment.

  bottlegate proved that there is some danger outside of the rarified atmosphere of their echo chamber; you never know when a camera might be trained on you, or that someone might recognise you as being something more than plain old "joe citizen".

  further, tm3's new address was quickly found and distributed, and (as i understand it) someone drove to his gated community to tell the security guard that tm3's "ass is grass".

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  Athanasius, that's very cloak and dagger, but not entirely unfeasible. After all, with all the suggestions about people in that area to keep their eyes open, presumably Tony spotting, the GB might well have moved him somewhere else when the address leaked. Or they leaked it themselves and he was never there. The intrigue in this case is palpable!
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  JW prepper fiction

  by Teddnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there have been a few fictional books written about jw interpretations of the future.

  one brother called ek johnson has written a few jw prepper fictional books based on jw timeline of events great tribulation and all.. i love prepper fiction particularly post apocalyptic prepper fiction but not zombie fiction i’m fed up of those.

  i view jw fiction the same as the rest, just like any good fiction.

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  NotFormer

  I remember someone writing that sort of thing a couple of decades or so ago. It had only JWs surviving (and a few who didn't make it). Jehovah, Jesus and the glorious ones didn't actually turn up to direct things. It rapidly became Lord of the Flies, IIRC.

  It may even be on here. Or wherever Armageddon Okies are archived.