It comes up from time to time: that the WT's "constant pleas for money" signifies their precarious financial state due to the pressure of the CSA settlements. Is there any way of demonstrating that to be a fact? I ask because I've always been under the impression that "constant pleas for money" is the default state of the organisation, possibly going back to Rutherford's time. Does anyone who still attends a Kingdom Hall feel that the "constant pleas for money" are more noticeable now than twenty, thirty or forty years ago?
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Constant Pleas For Money
by NotFormer init comes up from time to time: that the wt's "constant pleas for money" signifies their precarious financial state due to the pressure of the csa settlements.
is there any way of demonstrating that to be a fact?
i ask because i've always been under the impression that "constant pleas for money" is the default state of the organisation, possibly going back to rutherford's time.
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On May 3, 2024, the worldwide United Methodist Church apologized to survivors of clergy sexual abuse.
by was a new boy in'many survivors of clergy sexual abuse have never received an apology or any acknowledgement of the harm they suffered.
but at the may 3, 2024, meeting of the general conference of the worldwide united methodist church in charlotte, north carolina, the following resolution of apology to all survivors and their families was approved.. .
“the united methodist church apologizes for the times we allowed our desire to protect the church to outweigh our desire to care for victims and survivors of sexual misconduct.
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NotFormer
TonusOH: "They need to stop protecting people who do something that you know is wrong and evil."
I suppose that their supreme moral law is that the only thing that is wrong and evil is making the GB look bad. This was never about protection of and justice for the vulnerable.
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A fun moment
by Vidiot inmy wife of many years is more-or-less pomo, but she still (nominally) believes in jehovah and the bible.. she raised her eyebrows when she realized the full scope of the csa problem… rolled her eyes when letto the clown called babies “little enemies of god”… but today, we apparently crossed a real threshold….
…her response to the governing body being referred to as “our future kings” was….
…“what????!!!!!”.
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carla: "they can't all be the 'King'."
But it's good to be the king!
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Branch dedication London
by ExBethelitenowPIMA ini’ve been invited to the dedication at chelmsford.. it’s crazy here, several thousand ex bethelites here for lots of events.
all hotels booked.
big marquee.
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"There is something going on with those guys"
The echo chamber. These guys' jokes are never run past critical thinkers who aren't part of their in crowd, so they're never shown how off they actually sound to real people.
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A fun moment
by Vidiot inmy wife of many years is more-or-less pomo, but she still (nominally) believes in jehovah and the bible.. she raised her eyebrows when she realized the full scope of the csa problem… rolled her eyes when letto the clown called babies “little enemies of god”… but today, we apparently crossed a real threshold….
…her response to the governing body being referred to as “our future kings” was….
…“what????!!!!!”.
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"our future kings”
Are you yanking my chain, or is this real? 🤔😱 Full quote and source please!
BTW, I'm on the same page as your wife. Should a JW venture back to my door, I'm torn between giving them both barrels over this, or shaking my head pityingly while silently closing the door on them*.
If the GB is now a monarchy, who will be the WT's Cromwell?
*Probably the latter. It's not their fault that their leaders are tone-deaf idiots. 🙄
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Brother Jackson visits the Italy branch
by LaFrancia inbrother jackson visits the italy branch.to all the missing brothers and ex-brothers greetings stay healthy!this week brother jackson from world headquarters is visiting rome and bologna where the new branch will be built (by now the watchtower has turned into a multinational construction company and the old days are just a beautiful faded memory).the bethel of "italian/dissident/fugitive/spiritual" witnesses (active, but who do not agree with the organization's policies and directives because they are unscriptural) which has only a virtual location on the internet, (john 4:23, 24) will inform with a simple report this weekend.these are routine visits, but sometimes information of interest to the lord's servants can come out by mistakegreetings.
stay healthy!
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NotFormer
So was he bringing the WT to Bologna, or was he bringing Bologna to the WT? 🤔
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Lithuania Set to Mirror Norway's Approach on Jehovah's Witnesses
by raymond frantz init is proposed to the seimas not to grant state recognition to the religious community of jehovah's witnesses.
lithuania05/05/2024 09:30. jehovah's witnesses; baptism associative / e. ovcharenko / bns photo.. it is proposed to the seimas to refuse to grant state recognition to the lithuanian jehovah's witnesses religious community.. community representatives told bns that they hope that parliamentarians, taking into account the practice of the european court of human rights, will make a different decision.. the draft resolution registered by the chairman of the human rights committee of the seimas, tomas vytautas raskevičius, states that this community does not meet the requirements of the constitution and the law, that its education and rites do not conflict with laws and decency.. "the ministry of justice has determined that the religious teaching of this community is possibly not compatible with the constitution of our country in two aspects.
the first is that jehovah's witnesses oppose blood transfusions due to certain aspects related to health care (...).
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JWs are seeking to be registered as a religion in Lithuania, if I understand this correctly. The article mentions blood and military service. Norway deregistered the JWs over the shunning issue. Maybe I'm being overly nitpicky, but how does one mirror the other? 🤔 -
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Where is Tony?
by Athanasius inon february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.
in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.
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jehovaxx, No, that explanation doesn't hold water. The speculation on Quora is just loyal JWs trying to obscure the real issue: did he jump, or was he pushed?
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Need help identifying a book
by oncebitten inhello all.. i could use some help identifying the title of a wt book that i read back in the early 90's.
it was an older book when i read it.
i wish that i could recall more than i do.
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I said this: "The trouble with downvoting is that it doesn't come with any explanation as to why. Hopefully someone just clicked the wrong button in this case. 😳"
And got a downvote! 😸 I think someone's having a lend...
Slimboyfat got a downvote too. The Phantom Downvoter has struck again! 😳
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Vomit Eaters and Filthy Whores
by Sea Breeze inthe watchtower characterizes christians not affiliated with the watchtower corporation as vomit eaters and filthy whores: .
“how well they pictured the spiritual drunkards of christendom at the present time!
besides actual wine and intoxicating liquors, there are other things to intoxicate the priests and preachers in christendom so as to induce drowsiness in them, to make them reel, to confuse things before their religious vision, to induce them to belch out the vomit of spiritually filthy things” - w59 3/1 pp.
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Australia. Tamworth is within a few hours drive away. 😸