In that legal filing above, I note: "DOES 1-5 whose identities are unknown to the plaintiff". How accurately targeted must these filings be to go forward? Do a lot of anti-WT cases get thrown out simply because the plaintiff doesn't know which individuals or entities are the right ones to sue or otherwise pursue?
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Telluric movements in the branch committees
by Jalisco inrecently a gilead graduate from a latin american country told me that the gilead school now trains branch committee members rather than missionaries because there are centrifugal forces there... this made me remember a paragraph from a watchtower from years ago which i hang below.
in confirmation of this, i have learned, in the few contacts that i have, that in athens there is a problem in the committee and they sent the coordinator of another branch.
very recently, 2 members of the ecuador branch committee left and one left the organization and is an "apostate"..even though he graduated from gilead 8 months ago.. something is happening.... here's the paragraph that turned a red light on when i read it.... watchtower 11/2016 page 11. do we follow the instructions?11.
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Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?
by Sea Breeze inthere was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.
even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.
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NotFormer
"I met one in a porn peep shop-big surprise and the 2 witness rule saved both us."
Ron.W.: "That's tremendous!!"
That's the two witnesses rule working as intended. It's not a bug, but a feature. ๐
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Kingdom Hall Insurance
by NotFormer inthat the wt "self insures" kingdom halls has come up in occasional conversations on here.
how exactly does that work?
do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each kingdom hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc.
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NotFormer
Is a CSA suit "an accident"? ๐๐ฑ
"...lawsuits brought by persons upset over judicial actions" Was this common? Was it ever successful?
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Why Was WT OK with Blood Transfusions for over 65 Years Before Banning?
by Sea Breeze inblood transfusion history.
1665 the first recorded successful blood transfusion occurs in england: physician richard lower keeps dogs alive by transfusion of blood from other dogs.. 1818 james blundell performs the first successful blood transfusion of human blood to treat postpartum hemorrhage.. 1840 the first whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia is successfully completed.. 1900 karl landsteiner discovers the first three human blood groups, a, b and o.. 1902 landsteinerโs colleagues, alfred decastello and adriano sturli, add a fourth blood type, ab.. 1907 blood typing and cross matching between donors and patients is attempted to improve the safety of transfusions.
the universality of the o blood group is identified.. 1914 adolf hustin discovers that sodium citrate can anticoagulate blood for transfusion, allowing it to be stored and later transfused safely to patients on the battlefield.. 1932 the first blood bank is established at leningrad hospital.. 1939-1940 the rh blood group is discovered and recognized as the cause behind most transfusion reactions.. 1940 the us government establishes a nationwide blood collection program.. so from the beginning of the watchtower being printed in 1879, they were ok with blood transfusions until 1945. what caused this?
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NotFormer
I've had JWs tell me that transfusions didn't happen up until the time the WT banned them. IOW, the technology was banned the year it became a thing. I pointed out that it had been available at least since before WWI. And that the ban hadn't started until 1945*.
*Conveniently, after Rutherford's death.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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NotFormer
What is inexcusable is to know that and be making promises that you'll bring it about, if people donate money to you.
Isn't that somewhat what the WT does?
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Overlapping Generation
by pandorasbox1914 inthe september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 โtruly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take placeโ.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
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NotFormer
My Generation by The Who:
People try to put us d-down (talkin' 'bout my generation)
Just because we get around (talkin' 'bout my generation)
Things they do look awful c-c-cold (talkin' 'bout my generation)
I hope I die before I get old* (talkin' 'bout my generation)
*Apparently a hope within some JW circles ๐ณ Mentioned in this thread: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6028430898888704/jw-murders-wife-mother-law
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More JW Criminals Caught....
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/pirwhbyd4uy?si=x3awvyv4midux8es.
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NotFormer
Interestingly, I discovered this bloke just this week . I couldn't directly search for Donald Burney and YORWW directly through this site's search function; it always spat out an error message. (I wonder if that's deliberate, to stop Burney disciples being able to find threads about him and spam them.*) Searching the internet, I found that one exJW despises Burney so much that he wont use his real surname, but "Brumley" instead. I tried using that surname, and Lo and behold: I discovered page after page about the wonderful** Philip Brumley.
What a piece of work! Good to see that his tireless efforts to muddy the waters of CSA cases involving the WT are finally being recognised and rewarded by the secular state! ๐ธ๐๐
* Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules of this discussion board by mentioning this ๐ค๐ Please remove this post if it is.
** This is strictly sarcasm. The only wonderful, or more correctly, wondrous about him is his longevity.
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Watchtower Campus
by Gorb ininformation about the new watchtower campus, ready in 2027.. https://www.brplusa.com/projects/watchtower-bible-tract-society-new-headquarters-campus-development.
g..
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NotFormer
"Information about the new Watchtower Campus, ready in 2027"
2027: the end isn't imminent? At least, not for another three years. ๐
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Kingdom Hall Insurance
by NotFormer inthat the wt "self insures" kingdom halls has come up in occasional conversations on here.
how exactly does that work?
do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each kingdom hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc.
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NotFormer
That the WT "self insures" Kingdom Halls has come up in occasional conversations on here. How exactly does that work? Do they* actually set aside a portion of the monthly remittance from each Kingdom Hall and save into a pool to cover damage etc. issues that arise? If a Kingdom Hall burns down, does that pool get tapped, or is the congregation expected to raise their own funds to rebuild?
On public liability, I can't imagine a JW suing "the brothers", so I imagine any of those situations are gotten away with Scot free**.
It all looks a bit iffy to me, hence why I'm posting this in scandals and cover-ups.
* Presumably some department within Bethel.
** But what if an outsider, say a memorial attendee or bible study, decades to sue over an injury obtained on Kingdom Hall premises?
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John 1:1 in Coptic Translation
by slimboyfat inapparently there has been quite a stir in jw apologetic circles recently about the translation of john 1:1 in the early sahidic version of john.
i don't know if this has been discussed here before - if someone could give a link to a previous thread they know about on the subject that would be great.
here is what i gather: .
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NotFormer
"...Coptic Christians were never Arians, unlike, for example, the Visigoths or the Vandals."
It used to amuse me that the JWs chose to identify themselves with groups remembered for their violent and warlike tendencies. Perhaps I've grown up a little? ๐ค Heck, no! It still amuses me! ๐ธ