"Dressed as she was, its a wonder the elders didn't address that"
None of their damned business! đĄ
this morning i was in our front yard sitting down pulling weeds when i saw 3 people slowly walking on the sidewalk in my direction.
2 of them were young, handsome, clean shaven, wearing nice crisp white shirts and perfectly tailored black slacks.
they could have been mormons except.... there was a 60ish portly woman wearing a frumpy dress and ugly sandals.
"Dressed as she was, its a wonder the elders didn't address that"
None of their damned business! đĄ
i went to a christening at a church today, a black church.
it was an incredible experience!!
women were an active part of the service, and the people were very welcoming.
"As a witness, the evilest thing in the world is a CHURCH!! It's incredible how at a church there is much love and forgiveness"
"Love and forgiveness is for sissies!" - Diamond Joe Rutherford (probably đ¤ˇ)
not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.
) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".
but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.
"Hey Jan, check out the FREESAT channels after No. 600 +.
"When they're stop talking about "the last days," they start asking for your cash. Sound familiar?"
Those "Christian" channels are inhabited by para-church and independent "ministries" that funnel funds away from the local mainstream churches and into the pockets of the promoters, more often than not. Jan's point still stands: you're not likely to hear the "time is short; give money!" message in your local Catholic, Anglican, Baptist or Presbyterian church. Those denominations have been around long enough to know better than to be date-setting. Even the Pentecostal denominations are steering clear of that sort of thing, these days.
ETA: I didn't realise Jan said this: "As far as l know we , the British don't have these religious satellite channels. Brits don't go in for that kind of " give us your money for a blessing " stuff".
That she is unaware of that rubbish is to her credit, IMO*. Every country has those sorts of channels. We have a couple here in Australia, mainly programmes piped in from the USA. But you're not likely to find mainstream church goers knowing about them or paying them any heed.
*In this case, ignorance is bliss! Kenneth Copeland and his ilk make my blood boil; not knowing that they're out there would be great!
my family had several elders, ministerial servants, auxillary pioneers etc, so it certainly wasn't one of those 'barely in' families.
but in certain small ways, i think mine were slightly less hard line than some other families i've heard stories about over the years.
one example was the 'fall dinner'.
"Every country has it's autumn celebration. Does the southern hemisphere have a harvest time festival in April or may?"
Not really. In Australia and New Zealand we have ANZAC Day on the 25th of April, but it's not a harvest festival; it's more like Veterans Day.
People have tried to get Christmas in July happening, to have the Christmas style festivities at a time of year when the temperature makes sense. (Have you ever tried eating a hot roast dinner in 40°C [104°°F] heat, with a side of high humidity?)
i grew up a jw but my parents were not regularly attending services at a kh.
they used to, and were thoroughly indoctrinated though.
as is the jws habit of visiting non-attenders, 2 sisters came to my mom and dad's door one day to inquire of our well-being.
If that sort of thing can happen, then how can anyone feel safe?
Is there always a background sense of fear in a Kingdom Hall?
this morning i was in our front yard sitting down pulling weeds when i saw 3 people slowly walking on the sidewalk in my direction.
2 of them were young, handsome, clean shaven, wearing nice crisp white shirts and perfectly tailored black slacks.
they could have been mormons except.... there was a 60ish portly woman wearing a frumpy dress and ugly sandals.
Sounds like you got some good points out there without causing her to head for the hills. Top marks! It probably wouldn't have worked out so easily if the two young blokes had hung around. They probably were relieved to get away and let the two "old ladies" talk. Little did they know... !
I guess that it's almost a rule that there can be no more than two JWs at a door; I imagine that would be overwhelming for the householder. When the car group is uneven in number, I guess you'll get a solo witness doing doors, without the "protection" of a second JW ensuring that no honest conversations break out.
the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.
the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.
i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.
Gorb, what was the chatter like after that momentous event? Were there hushed whispers, or was it more of a humorous nature?
That was back in the days when people could still name the WT president. On boards like this he would be referred to as "Uncle Miltie". The new "future kings" don't get the same level of respect, eg. "Tight Pants Tony". I can't offhand recall the epithet Mr Letts(?) gets.
mark jones writes:.
if they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders theyâd be âinvitedâ to a judicial committee whereupon theyâd be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.. .
if the elders decide that they are guilty, theyâll then decide if the person is sorry.
mikeflood: "There's like scriptural base when you read it in the Bible, the angels chorus...the rejoicing, etc
"They could spin it by focusing on Jesus, not Santa as nowadays. For example, what a glorious opportunity to give testimony!"
It could be done. Focus on Jesus as the greatest gift, just have a family feast and present giving. Maybe have a special dinner at the KH to which "interested ones" could be invited and a talk given afterwards.
The elephant in the room with this scenario is Jesus Himself. The WT doesn't like Him much, and have always focused their attention away from Him*.
* The new seeming emphasis on Jesus is not about Him at all, but about "his brothers", by which they mean the GB.
this was one of the craziest things i remember about the summer conventions.
i would go into the sister's bathrooms and the mirrors would all be taped up with brown paper so that we couldn't look at our reflections.
were were amish or something?
John de Lancie: We are the Queue
mark jones writes:.
if they were spied upon and it was reported to the elders theyâd be âinvitedâ to a judicial committee whereupon theyâd be cross examined in a locked backroom by three men acting as judge and jury to decide if they are guilty.. .
if the elders decide that they are guilty, theyâll then decide if the person is sorry.
How far would the "my unbelieving spouse insists on observing it" argument get someone?