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  The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive".

  nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:.

  murdermanslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic lawsattempting suicidesexual intercourse with someone other than your spouseanal sex with someone other than your spouseoral sex with someone other than your spousesexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spousedelay in reporting a rape?

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  Fondling the breasts of someone you are not married to on numerous occasions

  So it's OK a few times? Just don't make a habit of it.
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  The official list of things for which you may be disfellowshipped

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from the secret elders' book which states that the list "of course" is "not comprehensive".

  nevertheless here are the acts that they deem worthy of specifying as being possible grounds for chucking people out:.

  murdermanslaughter such as killing someone while breaking traffic lawsattempting suicidesexual intercourse with someone other than your spouseanal sex with someone other than your spouseoral sex with someone other than your spousesexual stimulation of the genitals of someone other than your spousedelay in reporting a rape?

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  It's a bit disturbing that "Associating with disfellowshipped nonrelatives" is higher up the list than "Child sexual abuse". I'm assuming the list is in some sort of order. Having murder first, then, adultry, fornication ... etc.
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  Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

  by cedars in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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  They're still playing the same game. I can't tell you how much pain shunning caused our family when growing up.

  Shunning is based on a fawed interpretation of 1 Corinthians 5:11-13.
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  How to stay married to a born-in JW?

  by Frazzled UBM in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  it is hard to work out where to begin.

  i have been reading excerpts from this websikte for a long time and it along with a lot of the other sites have been incredibly helpful in helping me to understand what i have got myself into but i alos have no intention of getting out.

  i love my wife dearly but in the 9 years i ahve known her and the 2.5 years we ahve been married i have gone through the full gammit of emotions, trials and trbulations and tactics to try to get her to understand that the society is not what it claims to be but to no avail.

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  I'm saving up those pre "Stay alive till 1975" propaganda clips for when my kids are of college age. The ones that say it's pointless to study.
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  Good Friend of mine gets a response to his letter about Russell...

  by confusedandalone in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so a good friend of mine who had an issue with the fact that charles taze russell was given the understanding of 2520 and 1914 etc.. and was not of the faithful slave.

  he asked how could it be possible that jah would bless someone who was not part of his organization to have such understanding after reading the july 15 wt.

  he read me the letter as a way to help me understand and accept the watchtower.

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  I grew up as a JW. The first time I heard anything of Russell's 1914 pyramidology theories was through a brother in the early 1990s. I was about 17. He wasn't a conventional JW by any means, and he wasn't brought up in the truth (I think he's no longer a JW).

  We were out witlessing when the topic of CTR and 1914 came up during conversation. He said something like "He went a bit wacky with pyramidology". That phrase stuck with me for 15 years until the internet came of age.

  Whenever talking to JW's about "Old light" I like to use Luke 8:17 - "For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open."
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  Estimations for WT pay outs

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just wondering if anybody wants to take a stab in the dark or an estimated guess at how much the wt is paying out on sex abuse cases.

  this includes legal bills as well.

  if you could also state your reasons at how you came to your conclusion.

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  You know things are messed up when God needs laywers to protect his assets from people who were sexually abused as children.
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  Watchtower Organisation vs North Korea

  by biometrics in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i was watching a documentary on north korea.

  half way through it struck me how similar north korea is with the watchtower:.

  1. certian clothes are not allowed.. 2. you're restricted what you can and can't see.. 3. any foreigners visiting have their own personal tour guide to prevent you seeing the wrong things.. 4. you're not allowed to ask the critical questions.. 5. you're expected to pay hommage for the founder.. 6. the people all look lifeless and uniform.. .... but the thing that really got me, was the literature deparment in north korea.

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  So I was watching a documentary on North Korea. Half way through it struck me how similar North Korea is with the Watchtower:

  1. Certian clothes are not allowed.

  2. You're restricted what you can and can't see.

  3. Any foreigners visiting have their own personal tour guide to prevent you seeing the wrong things.

  4. You're not allowed to ask the critical questions.

  5. You're expected to pay hommage for the founder.

  6. The people all look lifeless and uniform.

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  But the thing that really got me, was the literature deparment in North Korea. The color and look of the books reminds me of a 1980-1990s JW literature department. Skip to 19:07 to see what I mean (e.g. watch?v=LovkrOC2lpk&t=19m7s).

  

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LovkrOC2lpk
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  Who still goes to meetings and out in field service?

  by SloppyJoe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious as to who on here still regularly attends meetings and goes out in service?

  as i sit at the district convention i can't help but think who else out in the crowd is just like me.

  doesn't believe what they hear, but are still here..

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  Could always put an SOS letter in the magazines you place. Something along the lines of "I came to your door and gave you these magazines against my will. If I don't do it I may lose my family".
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  "Snakes will eat dirt in the new order."

  by Comatose in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking with a jw i've known a long time and the topic of da new order came up.

  she mentioned how nice it will be when all animals are at peace.

  i asked why they had camouflage and defensive and offensive weapons if they were to always get along?

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  What about lions eating straw?

  Or birds eating apostate's dead bodies while the JWs (and their kids) look on.
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  How successful we're quickly builds in your area

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember hearing about quickly builds how this was a sign of jehovah's spirit that the kh could be built in 3 days.

  but what i am wondering is just how successful we're these builds.

  i can think of a couple of halls that were built by the quickly built methods that i would suspect they would of lost money on.

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  @JakeM2012 -

  I must admit finding a seat was never a problem at the KH I grew up in. Even during the memorials.