Posts by proandcon

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If You Could Write Articles For The Watchtower What Would The Titles Be?

by minimus in

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if you had the power to print millions of watchtowers & awakes and you could see to it that the articles that you wrote got to all the readers, give a sampling of what the articles highlighting "spiritual food" would say.

proandcon

" Beastiality - the Christian View" (WT study article)

" Why sparing the rod spoils the child"

Aluminum - is it safe to use yet?

"It's ok to lie - -sometimes"

"Are you ready to 'give it up'?"

How it's possible to show love to ones we "hate" (and not go mad!)

How to use God's "gift of time" to its fullest !

Is College a Snare and a Racket?

Are you doing enough?

How to "drum up persecution" to be like Paul.

If the local police were looking for JW's...would you be recognizable as one?

Four Door Cars and Minivans...a Christian view !

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If You Could Write Articles For The Watchtower What Would The Titles Be?

by minimus in

jw
friends

if you had the power to print millions of watchtowers & awakes and you could see to it that the articles that you wrote got to all the readers, give a sampling of what the articles highlighting "spiritual food" would say.

proandcon

Integ...absolutely hilarious...were you on the writing committee in Brookly...you have the schtict down perfectly...

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JWD Maps America America

by Lady Lee in

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friends

well here is the start .

if your name is not on it then either it wasn't on the old texas map or it wasn't added to the previous list so... .

if you want your name added please say so and let me know what state you are in.

proandcon

Proandcon in Massachusetts

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Jehovah's Witnesses reorganize printing operations

by Dogpatch in

for immediate release.

september 1, 2003

printable version

proandcon

Blondie....did you attend a KH in the vicinity of WT Farms? I attended one withmy family in the 1984-93 timeframe about 10 miles from the farm. was an elder in one of the local congregations with 33% bethelites. Congregation had 20 elders! 15 elders from the farm...some real "heavies" also included.

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 6-22-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 6-22-03 wt study

may 1, 2003 wt page 19

wt quotes are in red (or quotes).

proandcon

In 1997, a book study was held in my home. I conducted. About 18 people were assigned including an assistant conductor, an elder. My wife's sister (a non JW) was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. Being that she lived in a very rural area in NY and had limited funds and no health care insurance, we had her move in with us so we could care for her and take her to see oncologists hospitals (Mass General) in the city (Boston). She was in and out of the hospital undergoing chemo and radiation treatment for several months. When not in the hospital, she lived with us. being somewhat immobile, we got a hospital bed and set it up in my den on the first floor. A visiting nurse would come to the home several days to assist my wife and I in her care.

Any help from the FRIENDS....nada..nothing...no !!!

Oh, but we did get one thing...the other elder in the book study approached me once after a meeting and said that " some of the friends were uncomfortable at going to a book study in my home with this sick person there...(sick person...how about terminally ill; visited now by hospice).

The "sick person" was in another room and in no way any bother to any of the friends...as she was on morphine and mostly asleep.

So, I decided to get the other elders and immediately told them to stop the buok study at my home and move it to some other location...asap...I suggested the other elders house (he was Pissed off) as he made the suggestion!!!

What a loving, caring group !!!! Jesus said you would know his disciples by the love they showed...

In my experience, like with all people, there are some relly loving and caring ones and most of the rest will never have a clue...Love...if it's not self serving or convenient is a commodity largely lacking in the JW congreagtion.

I faded...

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The carrot, egg and coffee bean - which are you?

by proandcon in

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something to think about: a carrot, an egg, and a cup of coffee.... .

you will never look at a cup of coffee the same way again.. .

a young woman went to her mother and told her about her life and how things were so hard for her.

proandcon

Something to think about: A carrot, an egg, and a cup of coffee...

You will never look at a cup of coffee the same way again.

A young woman went to her mother and told her about her life and how things were so hard for her. She did not know how she was going to make it and wanted to give up. She was tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem was solved a new one arose. Her mother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots with water and placed each on a high fire. Soon the pots came to a boil. In the first she placed carrots, in the second she placed eggs, and the last she placed ground coffee beans. She let them sit and boil, without saying a word.

In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. She pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl.

Turning to her daughter, she asked, "Tell me, what do you see?" "Carrots, eggs, and coffee," she replied. She brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. She did and noted that they were soft.

She then asked her to take an egg and break it. After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard-boiled egg.

Finally, she asked her to sip the coffee. The daughter smiled, as she tasted its rich aroma. The daughter then asked. "What does it mean, mother?" Her mother explained that each of these objects had faced the same adversity--boiling water--but each reacted differently. The carrot went in strong, hard, and unrelenting. However, after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak.

The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had protected its liquid interior. But, after sitting through the boiling water, its inside became hardened.

The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in the boiling water, they had changed the water.

"Which are you?" she asked her daughter. "When adversity knocks on your door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?"

Think of this: Which am I?

Am I the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and adversity, do I wilt and become soft and lose my strength?

Am I the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but changes with the heat?
Did I have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a breakup, a financial hardship or some other trial, have I become hardened and stiff? Does my shell look the same, but on the inside am I bitter and tough with a stiff spirit and hardened heart?

Or am I like the coffee bean? The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain. When the water gets hot, it releases the fragrance and flavor. If you are like the bean, when things are at their worst, you get better and change the situation around you.

When the hour is the darkest and trials are their greatest do you elevate to another level? How do you handle adversity? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?

Count your blessings, not your problems.

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WT Press release - Possible sale of 360 Furman St Bldg in Brooklyn

by proandcon in

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for immediate release .

may 29, 2003. watchtower opens way for furman street property development.

the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc., a legal entity.

proandcon

For Immediate Release

May 29, 2003

Watchtower opens way for Furman Street property development

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., a legal entity

of Jehovah's Witnesses in the United States, has announced the

possibility of selling its nearly one-million-square-foot building on the

Brooklyn waterfront at 360 Furman Street.

For some 20 years, this building has been the principal shipping facility

for the Bibles and Bible-based publications produced by Jehovah's

Witnesses at their world headquarters. This information comes eight

months after Watchtower announced its plan to redistribute a substantial

portion of the Brooklyn printing operation to various international

locations and to its Wallkill, N.Y., printery.

A spokesman for Watchtower, Robert Alexander, said: "Our building at 360

Furman Street has served us well for many years, but we're relocating

much of the work that was done there. Perhaps this building will be used

by others in a way that is compatible with the Brooklyn waterfront

development."

Constructed in 1928, the 360 Furman Street building is located between

Atlantic Avenue and Joralemon Street and was originally known as the

Trade Facilities Building. Watchtower acquired the property in 1983. It

is a familiar sight to anyone traveling on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway

near Atlantic Avenue, as well as to those looking south while crossing

the Brooklyn Bridge or enjoying the views of the Manhattan skyline from

the Brooklyn Heights Promenade.

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Great Opportunity for them to share with "widows and orphans"...after the sale...NOT!

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Kingdom Hall being sold to church

by tinman72 in

ok, maybe not a real scandal, but this really bugs the hell out of me!

in short, the kingdom hall i went to as child and teen, is being sold to a church.

my mother (still active) informed me of this.

proandcon

About 2 years ago, the local KH was sold to an outsider who uses it as a dance studio. The local dubs were unable to find a place to move to, so they rented the space back fro the buyer. Now they pay rent on the hall they once owned ! Go figure. Anyway, the dance studio is quite active. Carpets were replaced with wooden floors. Old drapes were removed. Mirrors were placed on the walls. Large pictures of people dancing (ballroom and ballet) were put up. At holiday times, all the decorations are put up also. The dubs meet there still. They put sheets over the decorations. Still attempting to move. Unbelievable story with far more twists and turns. Many left for other congregations because they don't feel Jah is with the congregation in this setting! With far fewer publishers, they can't afford to move now.

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What is Happening to Charity? - Jun 1st 2003 Watchtower

by Simon in

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proandcon

I remember years ago a CO smugly say: " Giving to a worldly charity is like putting a bandaid on a terminal cancer patient". I was new and very impressionable then. Even that comment made me wonder ! Now, it's so innane and heartless. It's shocking that some intelligent JW's continue to buy this drivel. Even Jesus went out of his way to help others not part of his following. Why would Jehovah not want all mankind to actually show all forms of love to one another - particularly those in need? The WT position makes no sense from any perspective - except theirs.

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Hasidem Territory

by Blueblades in

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recently jh.asked about bad doors.has anyone had a whole territory of bad doors,such as a whole community of orthodox jews.

the hasidim are members of a sect of jewish mystics that originated in poland in the 18th cent.and that emphasizes joyful worship of an immanent god.

they do not take lightly proselytizing in their community.anyone have any experiences they would like to relate about working these territories.

proandcon

To soledad...when did you live in Orange County? I was there in 1985-1994...up Rte 17 in the Middletown area...