Not too long ago in a local congregation in Massachusetts, two people were df'd for telling others about the WTS involvement with the UN...anyone else hear of this happenning in your area? I guess teling othere the truth about the WTS is not allowed either. The lack of honesty and humility in this group never ceases to amaze me. How could this "spirit directed " organization have been so misdirected?
proandcon
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Getting df'd for telling others about the WTS and the UN fiasco
by proandcon innot too long ago in a local congregation in massachusetts, two people were df'd for telling others about the wts involvement with the un...anyone else hear of this happenning in your area?
i guess teling othere the truth about the wts is not allowed either.
the lack of honesty and humility in this group never ceases to amaze me.
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What kind of safety precautions do dubs take for field service?
by Check_Your_Premises indo they provide guidelines about safely entering homes?.
if a jw enters a home for the first time, what kind of safety precautions are taken by the car group to ensure the safety of the jw?.
for instance i was shocked to find out my jw wife wasn't instructed by the elders as to which homes belonged to registered sex offenders.
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proandcon
I always wore a condom in service...as an ex boy scout I was always "prepared"...can't be too careful these days....
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proandcon
Pee Wee Herman...that's right Pee Wee...in his hay day...before he was busted...visited our cong once with a JW acquaintance...wore a gray suit with a red tie...white shoes...just like on the show...spent an inordinate amount of time in the bathroom...wonder why...a real fave of most JW parents their kids especially...never saw him again...many got his autograph...maybe he'll be back...
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Do you think the real reason why Elders don't make shepherding visits is...
by XJW4EVR inthat they can't count the hours?
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proandcon
Blondie is right on...good sheparding calls take effort and time...two things most elders don't "buy out"(I was one on several bodies...incl ones near bethel)...plud if you shepard someone correctly it means you are actively seeking to "help" them...most elders really don;'t want to get that close to the "flock of God (who is suppossed to be in their care)...additionally many elders are quite poor at spending the time to prepare for the study to upbuild one spiritually...many have a poor handle on the scriptures in an "informal" setting and fear not "looking good"...there are many other reasons...it is suppossed to be key feature of the bodies activity...mostly it isn't even close...sometimes ...mostly thru guilt...an effort is started...but it always wanes withing a few months...it is one of the best kept "jokes" of the arrangement...the "sheparding call"...
proandcon (former elder)
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Worst/strangest bookstudy group
by Virgochik inok, i was reading the "worst bookstudy book" thread, and it got me thinking about the worst book study groups i went to.
once, my dad was study conductor and the study was held in an elderly sister's home.
there was antique furniture and doilies on the tables.
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proandcon
I was new and in a congreagtion near WT Farm in NY state...a "brother" (MS) had a book study at his very large country house...large room...34 in the book study...of which about 1/2 were kids...the brother was "uncomfortable" around people "of color"...each week some of the young (6-8 yrs old) kids "of color" would use his bathroom near the study room...you could see he had a problem with this..after the prayer , he would march to his cleaning closet to get cleaning products and immediately begin sanitizing the bathroom...before most had left...finally after several weeks of this routine...he just closed the bathroom door and put an out of order sign on the toilet...great Christian qualitiy for sure...he always cried about why he wasn't selected to be an elder...quite frankly...I always thought he could have just as easily been more comfortable under a white hooded robe...his racist comments were unbelievable...the bethelites in attendance were completely mum...a real strange deal for sure...
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Jehovah's Witness Cemeteries
by Kenneson ini recently stumbled upon a site that indicated a jehovah's witness cemetery.
i wondered if there might be others?
i conducted a search and voila.
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proandcon
There's also a small cemetery at WT Farms in Wallkill NY...near Farm 2...on a hill...pretty non descript...about 10 -12 prominent annointed buried there...bethelites "affectionately" call it..."the launching pad"...
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You've rented a billboard in front of a KH. What would you put on it?
by whyizit inif you could rent a bill board where you knew jehovah's witnesses would see it, what would you put on it to try to effectively reach them?
and don't forget that lots of other people would see it to.
maybe the regular joe would be able to develope some good questions from your ad too.
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proandcon
"Religion is a snare and a racket"
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Why do witnesses think they have the truth?
by JH in.
what would be the main reasons why the witnesses think that they alone have the truth?
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proandcon
simple...they're told they do...it's drilled into their heads from both a positive and negative perspective...
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What was the biggest scandal that went down in your cong?
by jambon1 inas it says on the tin - thoughts please?..........
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proandcon
Very self righteous pioneer elder (50ish) who was also the service overseer got caught in a very "compromising position" with a newly baptized woman (20 something) in a state park parking area...they were out in "service"...guess they needed some "relief"...interesting thing about it though is that they were "discovered" by his son in law and daughter...who just happened to go to this very park on this day (???) to do some light hiking...saw his FIL's car and ventured over ...the rest is history...9 mos later...a new future publisher was born to the world...he was bounced as an elder and df'd...she only given public reproof (must've been more repentant)
This event filled the gossip and rumor mill for well over a year...plus it happenned right near WT Farms "bethel"
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No JWs in sight....what happened to them?
by kid-A ini have been living in my new house since november.
i have been home every weekend, saturday and sunday mornings.
i live in a big city, in a densely housed area.. there has not been a single jw door-knocker this entire time!!!!
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proandcon
Field service here in many New England US congs is very light...no one seen in my neighborhood (metropolitan Boston) in over 2 years. (or anywhere else for that matter)The younger ones don't have any where near the zeal a number of the older ones had. Many teens are leading double lives and skirt field service like the plague. Ver few are "wholesouled" (tm). Most seem to be going thru the motions and just trying to keep up a facade. (and keep the elders off their back or look to get cong "priveleges" bestowed.). WT has a huge problem on its hands I think...remotivating the masses does not seem possible or very likely...sometimes there's a "campaign" to distribute tracts, etc to all households in the area...that gets some action...then the activity clearly deminishes...proandcon