Posts by vanyell

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NWT translated to E-sword format

by RayPublisher in

for those of you that like to study or do research in various bibles, e-sword is a great resource and a free program.

it can be found here:.

i've been looking for the nwt in e-sword format for a loooong time, and now i don't have to use the crappy wt library program just to look up a scripture in the nwt.

vanyell

Dare I hope that that DVD can be made available to us poor sheeps and goats to chew on?

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Moshe received proof of a spiritual afterlife in 1999

by moshe in

i have posted this experience of mine before- it's time to resurrect it again.. in 1999 i was in bed asleep and i had a dream- my father and i were shoping at a clothing store called fazios, that i hadn't been inside since i was a boy (closed for many years).

we were looking at some denim overhalls and in walks my mother and brother ( she died in 1991 and my brother had died five months previously).

they told my dad, it's time to go.

vanyell

http://theboywhocamebackfromheaven.com/

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New World Translation Assaults on Language and Phrases that Always Wigged Me Out!

by DarioKehl in

i listened to the august 4th episode of the healingxjws podcast where they interviewed a former jw circuit overseer.

he shared many great examples of how original meanings (especially poetry) were lost in this terrible translation.

it's worth listening to.

vanyell

http://www.cerm.info/documents/mark_driscoll_sex_sermon.html... Interesting take on SoS...

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For those in any doubt that the Society is at war with Facebook...

by cedars in

...take a look at this from page 29 of the latest october 2012 awake!.

the gloves are now well-and-truly off.

referring to facebook as a "social networking website" clearly isn't working.. the society now feels compelled to start being more specific about which websites it doesn't want you to visit!.

vanyell

I think for the individual, common sense should rule whether or not to post something to a public forum like FB. Unfortunately, common sense seems to be an extinct specie nowadays.

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District Convention Points Saturday 21-07-2012 New Light? Governing Body Is Our Mother?

by Bubblegum Apotheosis in

i have been trying to wrap my head around the talk that introduced the slave as our mother?

the brothers at bethel are worried that we are not treating our spiritual mother with respect.

jehovah is our father, the faithful slave (the governing body) is our spiritual mammy.

vanyell

Now that's funny... Drinking brandy killed my useless brain cells, GB, FDS, WTBTS claiming to be the spiritual Mother??? For one thing, the Bible or lieBle as WTWizard would say doesn't say anything about "Mother"... To think that they have copied the RC magisterium doctrine is plain silly and stupid. Mother church??? My foot.... No wonder WTWizard denigrates both the Bible and Christianity.... WTBTS put paid to being the very antithesis of what a Christian is reallyl supposed to be...

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Cedars' "Makeweight" Scenario

by What Now? in

cedars' "makeweight" scenario posed as a question:.

can you show me one scripture that supports the idea that the holy spirit would deliberately feed god's servants untrue information or a flawed understanding of scripture as a "makeweight" until actual truth would be revealed at a later date?

is there a biblical principle that justifies jehovah dealing with his servants in such a way?.

vanyell

That's funny, using Jacob and Esau as an example that God approved the use of deceit or incorrect information. Going back to the birth of Issac's twins, God have already made mention that the older brother will serve the younger (Gen 25:23).

And the LORD said unto her, "Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

Therefore there is no need for Jacob to use deceit (he used it twice) to get the birthright of the firstborn and the blessing of Issac , however he did it anyway, because he and his mother did not believe that promise. Here's what WT forgets to mention, the consequences of Jacob's deceit (Gen 27:41-44). Jacob was forced to flee for his life, then he slaved for Laban 14 years, experienced deceit practiced on him by his own uncle. He experienced heartbreak when he thought Joseph had died, his own sons lied to him. God did bless Jacob in the end, but not because He approved of the deceit, but that Jacob repented of his sins. Did WT repent after disseminating false truths/prophecies?

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Was the Verdict of the Candace Conti lawsuit a Win-Win for the WTS?

by rip van winkle in

why did the wts not try to settle this lawsuit before going to trial as they had so many times previously?

was it presumptiousness on the part of the society's lawyers and gb?

had this been settled it would have hardly caused a whimper.. it got me to thinking that although the verdict of $28 million is unheard of, it may actually further the wts to make their claims that they are the only true religion.. reason being- if the monetary award is overturned then they will say it was jehovahs will.

vanyell

Allow me to put my 2 cents here. First of all, clergy-penitent privileges is similar to attorney-client privileges. Under certain conditions, attorney-client privileges are to be suspended/ rendered moot. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorney%E2%80%93client_privilege. In the same way, clergy-penitent privileges are rendered moot, if such is used to conceal/further a crime. Child abuse and molestation is a crime both in the eyes of state and of God. Covering it up so that God's name will not be in reproach is utter nonsense as it will imply that God is a willing accomplice in the crime.

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Ultimately it is the child who should stop the abuse according to the GB!

by life is to short in

on page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.

she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.

usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.

vanyell

In the first place, the child is already being abused even before they get to read/understand that sort of idiotic article. More often than not, the child is already on a slippery slope to being a suppressed, frightened, fearful kid. How do can we possibly expect them to voice out their objections when in reality, the more the child objects, the higher the probabilty the child will get more abused. It is the responsbility of ANY adult to take note of the possible abuse of the child, and bring it to the attention to the proper secular authorities and the congregation.

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Mosaic Law - Can anyone help to explain

by Bells in

i'm hoping someone can shed a little light in regards to the witnesses stance around mosaic law?.

as i understand it, they don't follow the law, however do take some principles from it.. .

so - do they think that the mosaic law came directly from god?

vanyell

@TD Thanks for the elucidation. Jesus was probably against those hardline Pharisees and Sadducees who obeys the letter of the law but not the spirit of the law.

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Letter from elders to WT about Jonathan Kendrick and the WT response

by wolfman85 in

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i don't know if these letters were posted here before , so i'm sorry if is something that all of you have seen already..

vanyell

No letterhead means Plausible deniability.... but it's already submitted as court evidence by the defense, so either they are perjuring themselves or it's true. Then they can tell their R&F that it is Theocratic warfare.