if i think about it i think that is basically what they teach now.sort of. the only reason anyone claims to be of the great crowd is because we were all assured with out any hesitation and without any doubt that armageddon was RIGHT around the corner so of course we were all of the great crowd. But if someone died now they became just one of the othere sheep. the only reason people feel they are of the great crowd is because they think (as i used to) that they are never going to die and live on into the new world.
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Rumor of new light on the headquarters of the WT
by wolfman85 ini read in a forum in spanish that there is a strong rumor spreading in the corridors of the wt.
has anyone heard anything about this??
the change that is emerging is this: the great crowd has not yet appeared, and it is a group that comes out of the great tribulation.
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Ever Caution a Former RV about JWs?
by rubadubdub inhas anyone ever felt a strong desire to go back to one of their former "return visits" in order to warn them about ttatt?
i used to call on the sweetest gentleman who was truly hurt as a child by the catholic church and its doctrines.
last we spoke he was still so fearful about being damned to hell.
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joyfulfader
This is exactly what i want to do. i have thought about the ones i would go to. i am positive all my rv's were picked up by others since i supported the car groups virtually every day with my calls.
there was one particular woman that freaked out any time she saw witnesses on her street. i want to go to her door. apologize. then tell her to put up no trespassing signs and tell everyone she knows to do so (that cong takes the signs seriously).
i so want to warn them all to just say NO!!!
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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!
by megaflower in"we should be mindful".
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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joyfulfader
"now let's pay more than the usual attention to (insert name of any and all part or talk)" since we were obviously deficient in our listening skills at every single meeting.
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Blood Issue on Grey's Anatomy Tonight
by jamiebowers inat 9 pm on abc.
previews in last two videos on this link:.
http://www.wetpaint.com/greys-anatomy/articles/greys-anatomy-season-9-episode-13-spoilers-7-things-we-learned-from-the-sneak-peeks-video.
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joyfulfader
i watched the episode with my daughter and while there were things that were right on track, iot didnt have the feel of a jw family. regarding the dog tags...my dad wears his and my grandmother had them. it was so if there blood card was MIA they would be covered. my daughter had the reaction i wanted to hear...that she doesnt see how god would want someone to die over that.
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Relationships & JW's
by Kool Jo ingood day:.
just a query....how did growing up a jw impact your views of relationships, in terms of love/marriage?.
were you too gullible, naive?.
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joyfulfader
my relationships in the org were completely disfunctional. its hard to have a positive physical relationship because its drilled in your head that sex is bad sex is bad sex is bad and then poof...u get married for the wrong reason to one of the available single men in ur area who has the right "spiritual" qualifications and its ok. sad thing is the sex wears off (if ever was actually any good) and u r left with someone u barely know and dont even like. then ur stuck. there r no other options. my bf now is amazing and wonderful and he is an athiest. i love him for who he is and not because he fits the jw mould.
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are all COC books signed personally by Ray Franz
by joyfulfader ini just got my hard copy of coc because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover.
do all copies have this?.
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joyfulfader
its not a hard bound book. its a used paperback but it has a hand written note
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are all COC books signed personally by Ray Franz
by joyfulfader ini just got my hard copy of coc because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover.
do all copies have this?.
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really? i wonder why this one is signed. pretty cool.
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are all COC books signed personally by Ray Franz
by joyfulfader ini just got my hard copy of coc because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover.
do all copies have this?.
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joyfulfader
i just got my hard copy of COC because i wanted to read a book instead of having a pdf and there is a note signed by him on the inside cover. do all copies have this?
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Birthdays & Christmas
by Rattigan350 inwhat is the deal with people criticizing jws because they don't celebrate birthdays or christmas?.
it is as if when someone is born, from a baby, to a child, teen, adult; that one has a responsiblity to celebrate christmas (and i thought it was a free country); and others have a responsiblity to celebrate others' anniversary of one's birth.. i don't get the criticisms as if celebrating either is a great thing and the not celebrating is a bad thing.. data on star trek said that he does not understand why people celebrate their birthdays - a day one can not possibly remember.. what are you actually celebrating?
the fact that you made it another year?
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joyfulfader
You have obviously not had child diagnosed with a terminal illness so that each passing year is a celebration of an immense milestone. There are some people who can't take those birthdays for granted.
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Going to 9:30 am meeting. Oh Joy...NOT! Cliques anyone??
by OneStepOut93 inyep.
curling my lashes and putting on pant hose to be"modest" and ready for all the dribble that's going to be said.
*sigh* plus i have to deal with mary-sue or little miss perfect as i call her.
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joyfulfader
my former hall was the worst. certain families ONLY associated with their own families or a select other few. the gossip was heinous and perpetuated by the clique who were the elder/pioneer families with money. then there were the fundamentalist jw's who were also family that were in a usually silent but perceptible feud with the gossipy, wealthier clique. made for an uncomfortable situation for many when they were at odds. was part of the reason i left. watching them made me physically ill. cliques r so prevalent and so divisive.