Wouldn't it be more effective if Bethels around the world were inundated by people calling and asking:
"Can you please confirm that contrary to rumour, you did NOT settle out of court in multiple child abuse cases in the US"
re: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.
a bethel insider in the know told me that all of the child abuse lawsuits where the watchtower bible and tract society was one of the defendants were settled back in the beginning of this year.
i questioned it and called napa myself and they were absolutely settled back then.
Wouldn't it be more effective if Bethels around the world were inundated by people calling and asking:
"Can you please confirm that contrary to rumour, you did NOT settle out of court in multiple child abuse cases in the US"
we will find out soon.
as a brief update my wife sweet pea and i have 'announced' to a few friends and close family - less than 10 altogether - that we are no longer going to meetings.
some friends have probed for details, others don't want to know.
Hi guys!
You have to do exactly what you've said now cos unfortunately you can't have it both ways either.
So if anyone approaches you asking for info you need to say "sorry but I'm afraid I don't want to discuss it"
If other elders come tell them you've spoken to so and so and you've nothing more to add. Then get rid of them.
They will quiz your friends to see if it's true. We deliberately had to say nothing so for our friends good as well as ours.
I know that this goes against everything that you stand for as decent people but it's the only chance of a graceful exit.
I agree with lots of the other posters. This varies from cong to cong and from one body of elders to another. Fortunately my elders were of the "can't be arsed as long as they don't become a problem" class
If you want the exit to be graceful you have to do just that - exit.
Here's hoping and praying.
You know where I am.
S
PS that applies to family as well. Anything you say can be used - especially if there's 2 witnesses Two of my brother -in-laws tried to gather evidence via conversations with us for a committee.
an earlier discussion has been highlighting the differences between da'ing and df'ing.
xena said:i am sorry qadreena but i have never in the 20 some odd years i have been a jw ever heard of an unbaptised publisher being d/aed...marked as bad association yes..but d/a...no...but i guess stranger things can happen.... well that brought it all back.. actually xena the exact same thing happened to my brother in the early 80's.
he was only 14. he'd carried on associating with a friend of his who'd been disfellowshipped.
Nothing like a good "pebbledashing"
It happens because some elders just can't be bothered to do anything - so there's no consistency.
I know it doesn't help you with the way that you've been treated but try and be happy for them.
At least they haven't had to go through what you have - something you presumably wouldn't wish on anyone.
Hope everything works out for you.
i love frou frou, but the men in my house can't stand her!.
i also love cheryl crow, norah jones, enya and old joni mitchell.
there are more but will leave it to others to list!.
Tori Amos. Kate Bush. Joni Mitchell
there is a jw that works where i do at the hospitol.. she brought a patient to my desk and looked right through me.......spoke to the woman next to me and went on.. well, i thought she might not have recognized who i was (these new glasses).
today i was approaching her in the hall and she saw me and looked the other way.........i waved at her and said heeeay!
and smiled real big.....as i was passing her.
return the compliment and talk/look through her.
Pointedly.
its sometimes hard for us ex-dubs to share our stories and even harder for those who can't leave the organization and need to vent.
i would encourage all those with a story to tell to do so, i'd really enjoy reading it as i do already read the stories you all shared.. i grew up without my dad and almost without my mum since she was always out drinking or doing something else.
we've been homeless and without money, for years no one in the family had a telephone and my dad offered the sum total of 1.50 a week in child support before running away to american for a few years, abandoning his responsibilities (which he successfully evaded right up to me being too old to need or want his help).
Wow. Amazing story.
Are you really just 18?
i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.
if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.
should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.
fair enough.
but let him start again with some manners.
in another thread.
i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.
if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.
should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.
Troll.
lets shut down his thread.
bye.
i need to know something and i need help finding out the truth:.
if i retired from military as pharmacist, before becoming a witness and receive pension every month + benefits, is it contradictory with witnesses not being part of military?.
should i give up my pension to be in tune and harmony with our beliefs?.
Aquagirl
Thanks. Thought it was just me