Posts by teenyuck

3. You keep more food than beer in the fridge. For some reason, we have Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Heinekein, Busch Light, Bud Light and Corona all in the fridge...takes up a shelf and a half. A fridge in the basement has a case of Dos Equis (sp?)....there was nothing for lunch today....

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I hate the world today.

by Vivamus in

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sometimes, i just hate the world and its inhabitants.

i just need to whine for a bit.

i'll go get coffee after making this post, and smoke a pack of ciggies, so that will make me feel better.

teenyuck

You poor thing!

My grandfather (moms dad) died about 9 months ago. My mom found out, from granddad's girlfriend, that he cut my mom out of his will. And my sister and I. Oh well.

My mom and her sisters have been fighting over the dad since my mom was about 30 (mom says he molested her, them, all of them; they deny it totally). As a result, mom stopped talking to her dad about 20 years ago. Said her sisters were whores who just wanted his money-that is why they denied he molested them.

Now the old man is dead, mom is outraged that he cut her off. (DUH) (I don' t know what to believe with my mom; she makes a drama queen look shy/meek). My mother, in her outrage, calls and askes me if we can fight it in court! WTF?!

NO. She said things no one in the family is willing to back up, cut off her family years ago for other *moral trasgressions* and now she is surprised that her dad left her Zero.

It is unbelieveable what people will do for *family* money. The entitlement, the *it's mine*, the *you owe me*.....all over something no one is entitled to, didn't earn and is not owed.

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I may be beating this to death, but this is just stupid.

by shamus in

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okay, it's not like everyone knows that the jw dating website has like a 10 page thread here, but this response that i just got is absolutley horrible.

i just can't believe that this "witness" wrote this to me!

i will quote her response to me........ i see you changed your profile from a few days.

teenyuck

I just checked my profile...they edited out some of my better comments--Now I'll never get a date!. At least we have a screen catch, here....

Though they are letting my screen name stand....interesting.

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Is it worth it to sue the Society?

by Pathofthorns in

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a few weeks back i helped my brother move out of a shared apartment to a rented room in a rooming house.

there's no question that the years of having been a jw took their emotional, physical and mental toll on him and now as a former witness, life is not easy for him.. he understood when i refused to help him move the boxes and boxes of wt literature, the "apostate" cassettes/vhs tapes and other literature.

i asked him why he had to keep these things that had hurt him so much and he replied that "it was for the lawsuits".. i wondered in the back of my mind how many others obsessed over suing the wt society.

teenyuck

I am sure you already know my position.

I don't think it is worth it.

To set a legal precedent and with a strong case, yes, if you recognize the personal cost.

This is going to be from a blood case or a molestation case. Not a case of someone who *might* have gone to college/had a *career*/had a *different* life.

I think a family that can sue over the blood doctrine can/should. Most will not. Which makes it unlikely that anything will come of it (meaning the courts ruling against the WT in Civil court).

Molestation could be a much stronger way to chip at the WTS. However, this is only going to help the abuse sufferers. As it should.

The WT seems to be sending a message by trying to recoup legal costs from those suing them (as in Vicki Boer's case). Ultimately anyone suing the WT needs cold hard cash behind them to pay for a skilled legal team in addition to solid arguments and encouragement and I doubt those funds are available in most cases to be effective.
As much as we all like to see people inconveniencing the WT with lawsuits, and recognizing that effective (and sometimes ineffective) lawsuits do result in change, I would encourage any contemplating such to weigh the personal costs both to themselves and their families to make sure that if they do proceed they are proceeding wisely. Make sure that it is your personal choice to proceed with an acceptance of the risks involved and that you are not influenced by others.

Any company, entitiy, person etc. has the right to try to recoup legal costs. The key is having a legal team on your side. As the WT does. The average Joe does not. That is why you don't hear of it happening. However it does. If someone brings a frivolous lawsuit (the judge decides), the judge can tell the plaintiff to pay the costs of the defendant. This is common. This is to discourage frivolous lawsuits.

Going against the WT for the way they treat people is a battle that will not win. As long as they are classified as a religion, at least in the US, the courts must allow them to operate under that umbrella. If they make an exception against the WT for shunning (for example), they must take on the LDS, Catholics etc. It won't happen.

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La. Church Offers to Pay Whites to Attend

by Mecurious? in

hey just found this intresting article check it out:.

shreveport, la.

(ap) - week after week, bishop fred caldwell grew tired of seeing so few white faces in his predominantly black church.

teenyuck

They are sooo white they don't show up in the post. Now that's White!

PS...nothing shows, except a blank Netscape screen

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NO OVERTIME PAY?!

by Shakita in

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president bush will not like the response he gets from the angry 8 million plus workers out there who will be receiving no overtime pay because of his twisted sense of economics.

look, i am no economics professor, but how smart do you have to be to realize that if you take away $$$ from families struggling to make ends meet....that they will stop buying the unessentials and going on vacations, etc.... in a nutshell, helping to boost the country out of the worst unemployment in ten years!

how government can reach their sticky hands into our pockets and get away with this is absolutely criminal!

teenyuck

With more and more manufacturing jobs moving south of the border and overseas, this is becoming less and less a concern.

When I worked for Lucent, the engineers, all *white collar*, all unionized, all making over time. They routinely worked 45 hours when the job could be done in 40. I watched them sleep at their desks, eat at their desks, play video games, make phone calls and do every thing except work.

Their base pay, in Wichita, Kansas was approximately 85K for an engineer with 5 years experience. Don't tell me that he cannot feed his family.

The manager, also white collar, *exempt* did put in 60 hours, managing the bunch of morons. He got no OT. They all got bonuses and stock options.

Just one example of how that type of system can run a company into the ground.

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NO OVERTIME PAY?!

by Shakita in

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president bush will not like the response he gets from the angry 8 million plus workers out there who will be receiving no overtime pay because of his twisted sense of economics.

look, i am no economics professor, but how smart do you have to be to realize that if you take away $$$ from families struggling to make ends meet....that they will stop buying the unessentials and going on vacations, etc.... in a nutshell, helping to boost the country out of the worst unemployment in ten years!

how government can reach their sticky hands into our pockets and get away with this is absolutely criminal!

teenyuck

Here is a great article from the Wall Street Journal:

The link:

www.wsj.com you need a subscription to get into see this

FROM THE ARCHIVES: July 14, 2003
How Lawyers Work Overtime
Given all the union hollering over Labor Secretary Elaine Chao's proposals to update overtime laws, it's tempting to think this is just one more run-of-the-mill labor spat. The real story is that Ms. Chao is pushing through some much needed tort reform.
The Labor Department recently outlined plans to update the nation's antiquated overtime provisions, first devised in 1938. Those Depression-era laws were originally meant to protect low-wage workers from toiling too many hours by guaranteeing them overtime; they specifically exempted most white-collar workers. By now the rules are so outdated (they refer to such jobs as "straw boss" and "leg man") that companies are at a loss to know how to categorize their employees or figure out who qualifies for overtime.
That confusion has been a gold mine for trial lawyers. By 2001, the number of class action suits over overtime pay had surpassed even that other tort-bar standby -- workplace discrimination suits. Plaintiff attorneys trawl through companies, looking for categories of workers they say were "miscategorized" and "unfairly" deprived of overtime pay . Once they find a court to agree, they can extort millions in back pay and other damages from companies for huge groups of worker-plaintiffs.
And what payouts they are. In California in 2001, the Farmers Insurance Exchange was hit with a $90 million judgment after lawyers argued that the company's claims adjusters should be paid overtime. After that precedent, most companies have given into the legal extortions, preferring to settle out of court to avoid getting hit with huge awards. Last year Radio Shack coughed up $30 million and Starbucks $18 million to settle store managers' claims that they were due overtime.
Ms. Chao's update will help clear up the confusion, providing companies with clarity about job categorizations and returning overtime to the low-wage workers for whom it was originally intended. Today, only the rare worker earning less than $8,000 a year automatically qualifies for overtime. Ms. Chao's rules would raise that threshold (untouched since 1975) to about $22,000, securing overtime for 1.3 million more low-wage earners. On the other side, the rules would more clearly define who qualifies as an executive, manager or professional and make it harder for white-collar workers earning more than $65,000 a year to claim time-and-a-half.
The new rules will also be a boon to the economy in another way. One reason the U.S. weathered the latest downturn better than countries like France or Germany is that it has flexible labor laws that allow companies to manage costs and use their work forces more efficiently. The new overtime regulations will give companies more freedom to create 21st-century work forces that increasingly depend more on white-collar jobs with varied time demands than on factory-floor jobs that go in eight-hour shifts.
The unions are making hay over the rules, but largely for recruitment purposes. The Labor Department's modernization won't have any real effect on the rank-and-file, since many are already guaranteed overtime via collectively bargained contracts. But the unions have been trying for years (largely unsuccessfully) to recruit white-collar workers into the cause. They hope that by demonizing the overtime provisions they'll persuade more professionals to join unions to "protect" them in negotiations.
What the unions don't say is that these new laws will give non-union workers a lot more job flexibility and security. Overtime rules make it impossible to work flexible hours because companies are required to pay for extra hours rather than allow workers to save up time in exchange for working fewer hours later. Salaried workers can also be more confident of a steady paycheck when companies hit rough times.
Despite these obvious benefits, unions and trial lawyers recently persuaded Democratic House members -- aided by pro-labor Republicans like New York's Jack Quinn and Peter King -- to try to kill the overtime provisions via a labor spending bill. Ms. Chao prevailed by three votes, but Senate Democrats are gearing up to try the same.
The Senate has so far been the graveyard of tort reform, but Ms. Chao's provisions give Republicans an opportunity to follow through on their promises to reform the tort system and remedy at least one field of lawyerly largesse. Seeing Ms. Chao's update through safely might not qualify Senators for overtime, but it would certainly count as a job well done.