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  College and EX-JW Discontent....Questions and Stats

  by teenyuck in

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  2. friends

  *many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

  here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.

  page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

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  teenyuck

  Then you look at the other side. A college degree is definitely no guarantee of making more money or of a "good" job.

  That is very true. It helps with the qualification process for certain jobs, however, the area you live, the degree you chose, the type of job you try for and the company you work for all will determine whether or not a job is *good*. Same thing with money.

  As for financing.....

  There are many options other than scholarships.

  I was not an A or even B student. I was a B and C student. I ended up going to a community college for 2 years. I took out student loans, got a Pell Grants (based upon need) and worked.

  http://www.ed.gov/prog_info/SFA/StudentGuide/2000-1/pell.html

  http://www.studentloanalliance.org/history.htm

  While JW parents did not plan for college or have funds set up ( my mother did not...she decided during May of my senior year of HS I should go to college) there are ways to go, if you try.

  Between loans, grants (need based) and working, it is possible to cover costs....I lived at home the first two years and lived in the dorm my Jr. and Sr. year. I saved alot by living in a dorm. I was one of the oldest people there. There were three men on my floor (I lived in a co-ed dorm) that were in their late 20's; they were all freshman....
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  College and EX-JW Discontent....Questions and Stats

  by teenyuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

  here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.

  page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

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  teenyuck

  Cat, read the stats from the Census....

  If, as your profile says, you are approximately 44, according to the charts, in 1977, approximately 64.9% of kids graduated HS. That means 35% did not. Yours is not an unusual story. Perhaps not dropping out for Armageddon, however, dropping out was common.

  In 2002, 84% of kids are graduating HS. 16% are still dropping out.

  Which all goes to:

  Why do *many* on this board claim/blame the WTS/parents for their lack of education?

  Between 16%-30% of kids are not graduating over the last 25 years. Why would a JW kid be any different?

  Funding college is a major issue also. Who was going to fund it and did parents have a plan?
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  College and EX-JW Discontent....Questions and Stats

  by teenyuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

  here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.

  page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

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  teenyuck

  Your experience is slightly different from the average JW kid who was raised in the troof, never allowed to play sports and had little hope for a college education.

  You made a choice, which your parents have to take some responsibility for since you were still a child and living at home. They should have at least made/forced/encouraged you to try it for 1 year and if you wanted to pioneer, do it then.

  If you had gone on the school, assuming you did not make it to the big leagues, what would you have studied? Since most athletes don't make the pros, a back up plan is a good idea. What was yours?
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  College and EX-JW Discontent....Questions and Stats

  by teenyuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

  here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.

  page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

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  teenyuck

  You were allowed to play sports Michael, which is strange...especially at the level you obviously were in HS.

  Did you debate/argue with your parents? How long did you pioneer?
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  College and EX-JW Discontent....Questions and Stats

  by teenyuck in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  *many* ex-jws say that they were robbed of an education due to the wtbts and as a result, they feel that their families and the wt screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

  here is a link to the us census which shows that approximately 26% of the us population graduates college.

  page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

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  *Many* ex-JWs say that they were robbed of an education due to the WTBTS and as a result, they feel that their families and the WT screwed up their life by depriving them of the opportunity to go to college and therefore, earn a high salary at a job they love.

  Here is a link to the US Census which shows that approximately 26% of the US population graduates college. Page 5, towards the bottom, shows the college graduation stats.

  http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/education/tabA-2.pdf

  Since only 26% of the *average* US population graduates college, why are *so many* on this board convinced that they:

  1. Would have gone on to collge....

  2. Would have graduated college.....

  3. Would have a *great job, earning lots of money* if they had had the opportunity to go to college.

  Saying you were deprived of college is a broad statement. Do you know if your parents had a college fund set up for you? Did you have a secret stash of money you were going use to pay for college?

  Since so many of us grew up in poor to low-middle class families, how were you and your family going to fund your college education?

  The academic issues are equal to the financial. If you don't have the grades and qualifying classes, you are not going to Harvard, Ohio State University, Northwestern, or other top tier schools. Did you take the SAT or ACT? Did you get good to great grades in high school? Were your parents focused on academics and did they really push you to get all you could from the educational system?

  4. Were you prepared to go to a community college, take out loans, ask for grants, work to fill out the financial picture; all to pay for your education?

  Thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated. If you had a scholarship offer, please provide details....what college was it at, what discipline/acedemic area was to be studied, etc.
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  Gov. Dean Heals Leper, Walks on Water

  by George W Bush in

  1. social
  2. current

  (2003-08-04) -- gov.

  howard dean cemented his democrat presidential frontrunner status today when he healed a man of leprosy then walked across the surface of a small lake to his next campaign appearance.. .

  the vermont governor also shocked the pundits with his simultaneous appearance on the covers of time, and newsweek.. .

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  He claims to have stopped coke 7 yrs ago.

  Please provide proof of this claim. Provide a newslink that shows Bush said this, a former worker said this or someone close to him said this. I would like to see this in writing....

  BTW, Dean will not get elected. Read what he said to Tim Russert about raising taxes......
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  Grading of Disfellowshipping Offenses

  by RAYZORBLADE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just putting this out to you.. have you encountered, or noticed on occasion how what you were disfellowshipped for, also dictates who will associate with you, post-jw?

  yes, i'm talking about those beloved ex-jws/df'd/da'd/apostates.. by that, i mean, if you were, let's say, disfellowshipped for scriptural/doctrinal issues, perhaps in the ex-jw world, you hold yourself or others of that ilk, in higher esteem?.

  those that were disfellowshipped for smoking, heavy drinking or drug use, perhaps as previously not strong people.. those that were disfellowshipped for sexual misconduct: (file under: other) and similar to the above.. it's interesting.

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  I never thought about it.....however, I do notice a tendency of *most* to say to say that they were DFd for Apostasy....I seriously don't think that many people were DFd for that. I don't think *most* want to fess up to fornication or adultury. I think Apostasy gets a silent nod of approval on DBs like this.

  I think DFd for smoking is almost a badge of honor.....it is such a stupid reason to DF someone for. Drinking, OTOH, means you need help and should be pitied. Even if you were only *publicly drunk* (happened to a Bro at our KH...he had 4 beers)

  I don't care why you are out....I am just glad you are. You are all equal in my eyes.

  If you have to make yourself feel better by saying you were an apostate....(when you screwed around on your spouse or fornicated)....get therapy.
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  Google toolbar

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having been off jwd for a couple of days and not knowing how to fix it, i can tell you that the new beta version of the google toolbar includes a pop up killer which stops this site working.

  this site just appears as text with no buttons or formatting.

  i removed the google toolbar (new version) and hey presto - i'm back.

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  Ballistic, mine is right beneath the address bar on IE. When you left click on the colored word Google, you will get a whole list of options, one is Toolbar Options (right below it is Clear History--handy), click that and it gives you the options for the screen I tried to show you.

  You can try Default or play around with it and see what works. Anything to not give up google. I forgot how to Yahoo!
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  Google toolbar

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having been off jwd for a couple of days and not knowing how to fix it, i can tell you that the new beta version of the google toolbar includes a pop up killer which stops this site working.

  this site just appears as text with no buttons or formatting.

  i removed the google toolbar (new version) and hey presto - i'm back.

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  teenyuck

  Hmmm...none of my buttons showed up. I installed it, left it as was, and I get all the goodies here. Maybe it wasn't the google bar? I love the google bar....I use it all the time.
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  Google toolbar

  by ballistic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having been off jwd for a couple of days and not knowing how to fix it, i can tell you that the new beta version of the google toolbar includes a pop up killer which stops this site working.

  this site just appears as text with no buttons or formatting.

  i removed the google toolbar (new version) and hey presto - i'm back.

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  teenyuck

  Ballistic, have you tried changing the settings on the toolbar? I have it on and have no probs at all...here is a screen catch of what I have:

  Options

  General options

  Search using:

  Open a new window to display results each time you search
  Add Google-related items to the browser's right-click context menu. Note: Changes to this option will not take place until you restart your browser

  Search box

  Search box size: Narrow Normal Wide

  Keep a search history in a drop-down list under the search box
  Preserve the search history across browser sessions
  Automatically run a search when you select from the search history

  Buttons

  Descriptions of each of the buttons are available on the button help page.

  Button text labels: All text Selective text only No text

  Search buttons

  Search Web button
  Search Site button
  I'm Feeling Lucky search button
  Search Images button, to search the Web using Google's Images search
  Search Groups button, to search Google Groups discussions
  Search Directory button, to search the Google Web Directory

  Advanced features are ENABLED Advanced features are DISABLED

  Please be advised that enabling advanced features has privacy implications.
  PageRank™ display
  Category button
  

  Page information

  Page Info menu
  Voting buttons

  Navigation

  News button, to navigate to the Google News site
  Up button

  Finding words within a page

  Highlight button
  Word-find buttons, generated from search terms

  Google Compute is ENABLED Google Compute is DISABLED

  Google Compute Client

  Experimental Features

  For the adventurous Toolbar user, a number of experimental features are also available.

  Default layout

  Reset the button layout to the default button set, either with or without advanced features. Please be advised that enabling advanced features has privacy implications.

  Reset Layout (with advanced features) Reset Layout (without advanced features)

  OK

  ©2003 Google Disabling this option will immediately clear your query history. Are you certain you wish to proceed?