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  What about your vow to Jehovah?

  by a watcher in

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  did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

  why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

  why were you serving jehovah at all?

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  leaving_quietly

  To God, who said this:

  “This is my Son, the beloved; listen to him." - Mark 9:7
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  What about your vow to Jehovah?

  by a watcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you get baptized without being dedicated?.

  why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.

  why were you serving jehovah at all?

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  leaving_quietly

  My dedication was to God. It was not to an organization.

  *** w66 10/1 pp. 603-604 par. 15 Serving with Everlasting Life in View ***
  This is what we mean when we dedicate our lives to Jehovah. We do not dedicate ourselves to a religion, nor to a man, nor to an organization. No, we dedicate ourselves to the Supreme Sovereign of the Universe, our Creator, Jehovah God himself. This makes dedication a very personal relationship between us and Jehovah.
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  Such a strange reaction

  by leaving_quietly in

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  our cong.

  did something that goes against some people's personal feelings on a certain something.

  i won't reveal what... it doesn't matter.

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  leaving_quietly

  I'd be surprised if anyone ever uses the verse in Philemon... I personally don't remember ever hearing that one at all. And, contextually, it would still have been out of place for our conversation last night. Thank goodness I kept my cool. Not to boast... that's not my intent here, but it just shows how a very small tidbit can set someone off. I'm making a real effort to not get angry or even to make any comments to make her angry. Thus, my surprise.
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  Such a strange reaction

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. jw
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  our cong.

  did something that goes against some people's personal feelings on a certain something.

  i won't reveal what... it doesn't matter.

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  leaving_quietly

  To be fair, there is another verse that, if my wife had used it, would not have incurred my comment about the context as it would have been pretty close in this case.

  Let each one do just as he has resolved in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. - 2 Cor 9:7

  EDIT: was typing this as you made your rely, Shadow

  EDIT 2: The point of the my OP here was the strange reaction of pointing out the context of a verse. It was almost in passing. I only stated it after I told her that I agreed with her point of view, and in a very non-chalant way. The angry reaction is what surprised me the most since I didn't point it out in anger... more of a side-note kind of thing.
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  Such a strange reaction

  by leaving_quietly in

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  did something that goes against some people's personal feelings on a certain something.

  i won't reveal what... it doesn't matter.

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  leaving_quietly

  1 Peter 5:2: Shepherd the flock of God in YOUR care, not under compulsion, but willingly; neither for love of dishonest gain, but eagerly;

  It's the only verse in the NWT with this phrase. For context, I am now in the habit of looking at WHO is being talked to, WHO is talking, and WHAT is being talked about:

  In this case, Peter is talking, "the older men among you" is who is being talked to, and the subject is "shepherd the flock of God in your care".

  1 Pet 5:1-3:

  Therefore, to the older men among YOU I give this exhortation, for I too am an older man with [them] and a witness of the sufferings of the Christ, a sharer even of the glory that is to be revealed: 2 Shepherd the flock of God in YOUR care, not under compulsion, but willingly; neither for love of dishonest gain, but eagerly; 3 neither as lording it over those who are God’s inheritance, but becoming examples to the flock.
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  Such a strange reaction

  by leaving_quietly in

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  our cong.

  did something that goes against some people's personal feelings on a certain something.

  i won't reveal what... it doesn't matter.

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  leaving_quietly

  LOL!

  I bet it's 5th grade stuff now.

  Or worse. Which reminds me... way OT here, but... I was thinking if a new Bible was coming out, would it be the "simplified edition"?
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  Such a strange reaction

  by leaving_quietly in

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  our cong.

  did something that goes against some people's personal feelings on a certain something.

  i won't reveal what... it doesn't matter.

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  leaving_quietly

  Our cong. did something that goes against some people's personal feelings on a certain something. I won't reveal what... it doesn't matter. My wife, who was a bit put off by it, commented that "God wants us to do things, as the scripture says, 'not under compulsion, but willingly.'" I agreed, then commented: "Of course, that's not the context of that verse. That verse is about overseers serving, not about our personal feelings on things." Wow, did I get a reaction from that! She angrily said: "That verse can have many applications. Even the Society applies it to other things." I just smiled. I didn't even say the Society was wrong. She was visibly upset about me making that notation. I was genuinely surprised. I said: "Um, well... I didn't mean to cause an argument here... just pointing out the context of the phrase is all." The conversation ended there.

  What I really wanted to say was: "That being the case, I can make that verse mean anything I want. For example: God wants us to eat watermelons with gladness of heart. He want us to eat it, though, 'not under compulsion, but willingly.'" I didn't say that, but I sure wanted to. Look how the Society makes people blind to what the Bible really says!!!!
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  My Grammy passed away this morning...

  by diana netherton in

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  peacefully after a short bout with leukemia.

  she was 88 years old and the foundation of my life.

  she will be sadly missed by me and everyone whose lives she has touched.. .

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  Very sorry to hear this. My sincereset condolences.
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  new light = redefining meanings while retaining concepts and JW language

  by wallsofjericho in

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  i thought of this during another thread.. major changes in the doctrine by dropping old ideas would seem too obvious.

  as in the past the wts just "redefines" all the old terms.

  the old - "taking from one shoulder and moving it to the other shoulder" trick.

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  leaving_quietly

  I don't get "new light" as a concept. They use Prov 4:18 for this, but nowhere in that verse does it say the light will be new or newer. I could understand if they said "brighter light", but "new light"? Someone recently said to me about the FDS change that everything else is "old light". I laughed and said: do you know how ridiculous that sounds? How can light be old?
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  On What Date Did Watchtower Have THE TRUTH?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  if a jw tries to gather you back to the flock or debate with you, try these questions:.

  on what date did the watchtower arrive at the truth?.

  (a sharp jw will try to be fuzzy.

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  leaving_quietly

  4) The truth cannot contradict other " truth." Only one can be right.

  1 Tim 2:5: Jesus is Mediator for whom? In prayer, "everyone". Of the new covenent, "only the anointed". Only one can be right.