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  Seattle Convention - any updates?

  by Lynnie in

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  was wondering if anyone attended the seattle intl convention and what it was like?

  saw some pics from instagram, seems like quite the.

  big production for sure!

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  leaving_quietly

  insidetheKH, did you hear 394? I heard 294. When I counted from my seat, I came up with 318, but I thought I messed up along the way. If it was 394, that would be over 1%, which I don't think it was. I wrote down 294. I didn't write down the other regional tie-in numbers. I didn't really care.
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  Seattle Convention - any updates?

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  was wondering if anyone attended the seattle intl convention and what it was like?

  saw some pics from instagram, seems like quite the.

  big production for sure!

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  leaving_quietly

  294 baptized in Seattle. Among all the tied in Regional Conventions, there were over 400 (424, if I recall). In Seattle (I was there), mostly kids. There was one presumably paraplegic adult (they baptized him on a stretcher... had one leg amputated), and I believe a blind teenager (or somehow otherwise challenged... couldn't really tell... at first, he was led by two people, but when he got into the pool, he was just acting a little off).

  tresdecu, you flew in? Where from (general area)?

  Yes, tear jerker resurrection video... even yours truly shed tears. I'm a big sap anyway. I told my wife later that they did NOT need to show that video, that is was completely heartless to do so since so many people have lost loved ones. There was NO NEED for that kind of emotional tugging at the heartstrings. She didn't disagree.

  Yes, Lett was just as goofy. The attendance was substantially lower than anticipated. They expected between 36,000 and 44,000. Friday was a little over 31,000. Saturday about the same, and Sunday morning, a little over 32,000. With all the regional tie-ins, the grand total attendance was just over 73,000. You can see from the baptism numbers that it's considerably less than 1%.

  Friday morning traffic was a mess. People staying just 20 minutes away had to endure a 2.5 hour backup. Parking was pretty bad. Most people had to park a mile or so away. They hired school buses to shuttle people to and from the parking lot, but there were only 3 or 4 of them. Saturday and Sunday, they had their stuff together, so it went more smoothly.

  I'd give you a blow-by-blow, but if you read any of the other convention threads, there's no need. They're all the same. Every talk was scripted. Every brother said the same thing at this convention as at others, practically word for word.

  The only brothers who gave talks at the International were either bethelites or COs or DOs. No one below those ranks gave parts. Most days, the morning program went overtime significantly, leaving very little time for lunch. The interviews with the international delegates were long-winded. Most afternoons were overtime, too, but not by too much. It was tolerable.

  I wouldn't call it a historic occasion. Aside from having the international delegates there, it was just another convention. Although I would say, this one seemed to hype up all the JW accomplishments more than usual. A huge amount of boasting and self-aggrandizing took place. There was more of that than "do more, do more, do more", I thought.
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  Awake!

  by HappyOutsideTheBox in

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  bbc article :http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-28166192.

  no mention of the watchtower.. when did awake become the flagship magazine?.

  hotb.

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  leaving_quietly

  In the article: "At weekly congregation meetings, volunteers are encouraged to let passers-by approach rather than trying to stop them."

  Not so anymore. This was addressed at the convention. They had a demo where people did simply walk by and showed that to be ineffective. Then they demo'd it where the JW approached someone who was looking at a book. As you can guess, a positive conversation ensued and arrangements were made to call on the person at their home. My point is, be prepared. This tactic is changing.
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  "New Book" God's Kingdom Rules

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard that on sat the jws released a new book at the convention god's kingdom rules.

  is it a verse by verse of ezekiel or daniel?

  does it mention the "overlapping generation"?

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  leaving_quietly

  something is out of date that is in a publication only 3 years old

  This BRAND NEW book is out of date! They have a picture of Guy Pierce in there with the GB.
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  Most absurd thing I heard at the convention yesterday!

  by Batman89 in

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  brother lett was giving the last talk of the day about what they supposedly accomplished in 100 years.

  i was just waking up so im paraphrasing alittle(i was dosing off all day) anyways in his introduction he said.

  "there is more evidence to prove gods kingdom on the earth is a reality than wind,electricity and gravity is a reality on the earth".

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  Batman89, were you in Seattle, too? Or in a tie-in? Yes that statement was so absurd, I wrote it down in my [very few] notes.

  There was also quite a bit said about having favorite sport teams and rooting for them. It was under the guise of nationalism.

  This was in the talk about who would NOT inherit the kingdom, and it referred specifically to "idolatry". Any one who we get over-enthusastic about is considered idolatry. Hello? JWs and the GB? JWs and "the organization"? How is that NOT idolatry? When Lett was introduced for his talks, the audience clapped BEFORE he started, as well as after his talk. How is this NOT idolatry????
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  ??? Love never fails ???

  by Zoos in

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  2. bible

  1 corinthians 13:8 - love never fails.... .

  i've always thought it meant that where love once existed it will always exist, always be felt no matter what happens.

  the last few years have forced me to abandon that understanding in favor of new light.. now i'm thinking: love never fails to be the appropriate way to handle any given situation.

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  leaving_quietly

  Love never fails for the person showing love. It only depends on one person. Love is not something that depends on reciprocation. If we show love to others, we ourselves are never failed for that. It may not be returned, but that doesn't mean it failed.
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  JW.ORG to be the fulfillment of Matthew 24:14

  by donuthole in

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  the organization is shifting away from printed literature in favor of their new jw.org website.

  the website contains content that is not printed in literature.

  kiosks, trolleys, and storefronts are being used to showcase the website.

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  leaving_quietly

  put the information on the internet and the prophesy is fulfilled.

  You mean, fulfilled again. It was already fulfilled in 1995.

  *** w95 9/1 pp. 17-18 par. 17 Christian Witnesses for Divine Sovereignty ***
  Still, that first-century preaching work was merely a foretaste of what would be accomplished during the last days. Looking forward especially to our time, Jesus said: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10) Has this prophecy been fulfilled? Indeed, it has.
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  "It's not religious..." Wait... What???

  by dynamiterose77 in

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  2. beliefs

  my friend, mike works as a massage therapist, and there is a woman at the shop that is super-jw-woman and is constantly hounding him with things.. today, he's messaging me and he tells me that she was trying to push a brochure or something on him.

  he said he'd really rather not read a religious pamphlet.. so... she says, "it's not religious... it's from god.".

  isn't that kinda what religious means?

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  leaving_quietly

  Reading this thread, I keep having this going through my head:

  Psalm 26:4: "I do not associate with deceitful men, And I avoid those who hide what they are."
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  www.organistudios.com

  by mauiboy in

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  2. friends

  the guy who owns this website is supposed to be the guy who made the "caleb" videos for the wt......he has recently moved into my wifes' congregation.. (i have been 'in-active' for almost 8 years, so have very few ties to anyone in the congragation except for my wife, and our relationship is more room-mates than anything, so i dast not ask regarding this.

  any info from her would be biased anyway).. quite by accident my grandson mentioned that he'll be doing some editing for this fella.

  i visited the website momentarily and felt sick at the openiong screen: seriously j-dub influenced.

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  leaving_quietly

  Actually, it looks like an older power house, probably to match the "Creative POWER HOUSE" part of his intro. Google some images for "power house" and you'll see what I mean.
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  Local Kingdom Hall Speakers To Be Replaced By Governing Body Video Feeds.

  by donuthole in

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  2. friends

  so we've seen as the current gb is getting more facetime in an effort to reach the hearts and minds of the rank and file.

  this took a leap with video feeds at an open annual meeting.

  the international conventions are taking this a step farther.. do you think that local speakers at kingdom halls could ever be replaced by headquarter approved video feeds?.

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  leaving_quietly

  I doubt it at this level. However, there have been some experiments done with having assemblies broadcast to KHs. This may be something we see in the future.