so witnesses reject many practices or holidays due to their "unscriptural or pagan" origins.. for example, birthday celebrations, mothers or father's day, christmas etc..... most people in the world will say "but the origin doesn't matter anymore, we follow this custom now because it's a joyful occasion that creates happy times and brings the family together".
it is still firmly rejected.. so, if the wrong origin is so important, and should result in rejecting something, why isn't the same principle applied to the actual jehovah's witness faith itself!?.
after all, the very foundation of the organisation was based on wrong understandings of the bible, far fetched teachings and doctrines, links to false religious backgrounds, pyramidology, false predictions, inaccurate beliefs etc...... using their reasoning, it doesn't matter how good something is now, if the origin was faulty to begin with?
It would be useful to compile a list of unscriptural or pagan things the JW belief system was based on in the beginning. While I've heard rumors and haven't done much research on that topic (mainly because it bores me to tears) it would be useful. This topic is a phenomenally good one and really shows how contradictory JWs are with their own belief system.
I'll start:
Pyramidology - Pyramids were elaborate tombs for Egyptian kings, who were regarded as gods.
when i left witness land in the early 90's, i remember hearing that out of 144,000 anointed members that there were only 8 to 9 thousand left and then the end will come.. i'm suddenly curious.
the jw organization is one that puts emphasis on tracking, i.e., regular meeting attendance, current standing, field service hours, territory tracking, return visits, etc.
therefore, did the society ever try to track each and every member of the 144,000?
There is a box on every publishers ministry record card to say if you profess to be one of the anointed or not.
While this is true, it is not reported back to the branch, but Elder, MS and Reg Pio are. Go figure. The one statistic they SHOULD be concerned with, they are not. How in the world would two "anointed" people from different parts of the world even know about each other? If those two were standing next to each other at a convention, they would have no idea that the person next to them was their brother/sister in Christ. The thought wouldn't even cross their mind.
let the merging begin!!!.
to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.
re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.
Our local RBC tried to get people to go to the KHs in the territory where they lived a few years back. They mapped out where everyone lived and showed by data that some people were driving at least three territories away to attend a congregation. Why? Because they simply couldn't get along with people. So, the RBC figured out that we don't need new KHs. They decided the best approach would be to have the elders take the lead and GO WHERE THEY BELONGED. Guess what? That went over like a lead balloon. One elder very adamantly REFUSED to do so and put the entire thing in jeopardy. The C.O. got involved and the whole thing was dropped.
The RBC was right. We didn't need NEW halls. We needed people to quit being babies and act like real Christians and forgive their brothers and sisters. In the end, it didn't happen.
People shift congregations all the time. It doesn't matter what the branch says. People are going to do what they want to. If congregations merge, expect people to shift again, to another hall somewhere else. That's the nature of it all.
has no one else seen this illustration in today's watchtower?
i don't know how to post it on here perhaps someone will help?.
i swear its straight out of the lion king, the scene were scar throws mufasa into the stampede "long live the king" that scene.. i wonder how many jw kids will be picking up on this today?
heard a lot buzz for our upcoming convention.
those that already been were saying how great it was and all the videos that were presented.. well, thus far not impressed!
in fact many times pure insanity!
soliciting any and all opinions.
as some of you may know, wife is full in pioneer.
my fade has gone from us fighting.
I finally told my wife about a year ago. Same reaction as most here have had from their wives. I let it drop for awhile, but it kept coming up every few months. Apparently, she did go to the elders, but they told her that as long as I wasn't spreading anything, there wasn't anything they could do about it. Of course, she couldn't be specific with them as she never let me divulge to her things I discovered.
Our marriage is terrible. Not much fighting or arguing anymore. But the eye rolls, the inability to even make eye contact, the look of disgust when I walk into the room, the not sleeping in the same room... it's all terrible. I cannot help but feel that the storm is approaching.
Having read Daniel Genser's story, I have a feeling of shock and awe. I know Daniel and Devon personally, as acquaintences. I worked with them on an RBC project a few years back and even visited them in their home. It's been a few years, though. For them to go from full-blown JWs to out in a matter of less than a year is nothing more than incredible. I wish I had the chance to talk with them both before they moved to the other side of the planet.
i feel sorry for lark, star in save by the bell tv show.
years ago we.
went to the same kh when she was a child.
Lark got married last month secretly in Vegas. I saw the story back then and just shook my head.
breaking news from co!!
according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.
what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?
We are in the last part of the last days, so very close to the last DAY
Odd... Samuel Herd at a district convention a few years ago said from the platform that we were in the last day of the last days. So which is it? We're in it, or we're very close to it?
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/227971/statement-from-heaven
so, we've already kind of had the discussion about the 10/15/2015 study edition of the watchtower, especially the article entitled "the naive person believes every word.".
but one thing i noticed about this article...the web address and html code has a different title.. the html title is "is it true because it is on the internet?".
the web address is: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151015/true-because-it-is-on-internet/.
so, we've already kind of had the discussion about the 10/15/2015 study edition of the watchtower, especially the article entitled "the naive person believes every word.".
but one thing i noticed about this article...the web address and html code has a different title.. the html title is "is it true because it is on the internet?".
the web address is: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20151015/true-because-it-is-on-internet/.
The article has one main thrust:
And what should you do if you find slanderous news about Jehovah’s organization on the Internet? Such material should be firmly rejected.
The message?
'While the rest of the news should be treated with caution, and if you have time (who does?) make sure what you read is true before spreading it, but if it's bad news about the organization, you don't even have to bother because it must be false.'
Talk about double-speak.
