Call Social Services in you city or state,which probably handles elder abuse problems like the above poster advised. I think Bubblegum gave good advice on who to contact. They are cetainly behaving terribly.
panhandlegirl
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Any suggestions on handling financial abuse of a senior by the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society?
by Balaamsass indoes anyone here have any suggestions on handling financial abuse of a senior by the watchtower bible and tract society?
mom gave a lot of money to the watchtower bible and tract society over her lifetime- (6 figures).
after she ran low on funds she made a 5 figure "conditional loan" to wtb&ts.
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8/15/12 WT--Materialism is YOUR problem
by sd-7 inone thing i noticed in the august 15, 2012 watchtower, page 26, is how the writer has clearly left the usual form of narration.
typically it goes like "we must avoid satan's snares!
" but when it gets to the subject of materialism, notice the change in paragraph 4, page 26:.
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Or, the pacts and classes--if you are not a Jew, that is a complete waste of your time to try and figure out. In the meantime, you are not empowering your own soul. How many witlesses, born in and dying faithful, even know what a chakra is? Do any of them know even the tiniest way to control the outside world? Some hear of the "power(??)" of positive thinking, but are not told that, unless their souls are fully empowered, positive thinking is about as powerful as blowing up your car engine with the transmission in neutral or totally busted. Ditto the Law of Attraction--witlesses are supposed to use the power of positive thinking to get people into the same cancer, but without this empowerment (which pious-sneering itself prevents), it does nothing.
I don't really think I am dumb or poweless, but I don't quite understand everything you are talking about. What "pacts and classes are you speaking of?" I had never heard the word "chakra." I have never
practiced yoga so I never encountered the word; I looked it up. I am planning on learning more about yoga as I need it to loosen my bones and I hear it helps.I really want to know more about your philosophy.
Unfortunately, I am materlistic because as you stated, humans need material things to live and I prefer to live as well as I can afford. All the JWs, both family and members of the congregation,I associated with were materalistic
Apparently they don't practice what the GB teaches. Like the writer of the above article, they apply it to others not themselves.
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Latest WT: "Facebook = a powerful medicine"??
by cedars inok, i think the writing department has well and truly lost the plot now!.
on page 14 of the august 15th watchtower, there is an extensive section on the perils of the internet, with the caption "do you heed bible-based warnings about the internet?
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This reminds me of the old song "How you gonna keep down on the farm" The WTS is trying to keep CONTROL but I feel they are going to lose the battle. Most of the people I work with have a laptop with them. The young people
have a smart phone with them like it is part of their anatomy. Facebook dangerous! NO, it's all about trying to control and it's not going to happen. It's out of their hands now no matter how many articles they print.
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7777 posts and I have decided to --
by moshe ini was thinking (before i go buy my lottery ticket) , i have probably spent at least an hour of my time on this forum for each of those posts and not your typical kiss-me posts that some people love to fill up the forum with, either.-- 7777 hours is a lot of time and i have been reflecting on this almost eight year voyage- has it been worth it?
for me personally, yes it has.
i learned quite a bit about myself and how other people's thinking process works- if i knew what meds some were on, i wouldn't have wasted my time trying to convince them they aren't the messiah-.
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Moshe, I always liked your avatar. I need to post one if I can ever figure out how to do it
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7777 posts and I have decided to --
by moshe ini was thinking (before i go buy my lottery ticket) , i have probably spent at least an hour of my time on this forum for each of those posts and not your typical kiss-me posts that some people love to fill up the forum with, either.-- 7777 hours is a lot of time and i have been reflecting on this almost eight year voyage- has it been worth it?
for me personally, yes it has.
i learned quite a bit about myself and how other people's thinking process works- if i knew what meds some were on, i wouldn't have wasted my time trying to convince them they aren't the messiah-.
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Moshe, I haven't been on this forum long, but I have also found your posts interesting and insightful. I did not fade, per se, I just stopped attending meeting or going in fs. Then, from what I learned on this forum, I got
caught up in the 80' purg. The Elders called out of the blue and asked me to come to the KH to meet with them, I refused. I told them if they wanted to speak to me, they could come to my house, which they did. I must say, I
knew more about what the WT said than they did. Anyway, I never backed off from tellling them where they were going wrong as far as the Mediator and other teaching were concerned. They, of couse, df'd me for apostacy. They
did tell me I could appeal but I refused. When I left, I never looked back. I was in the organization from the age of 4 until sometime in the early 80's. I don't even remember in what year I got df/d. As you stated a "one evening of
internet research can tell a JW all he needs to know" about the lies the organization has told. I hope to see your posts again, 7777/posts/hours is a lot of time!
PG.
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Which type of "Apostate" is worse? An Atheist/Agnostic or one who joins a New Organized Religion?
by QuestioningEverything insorry, i posted this in another section.
meant to put it here.. just wondering which kind is worse to active jw's?
my aunt used to be a jw but now she is a mormon.
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panhandlegirl
I think joining another Church/Religion is considered worse. I became a Catholic. When my jw mother asked me why I told her she was the one who had baptized me into the Catholic Church as a baby. All I did was return to
my roots. That did not go over well. My jw cousins say I am like a dog that has returned to it's vomit. Oh well. Whatever. Two of my df'd brothers don't believe in God or the Bible, I don't know what they belive.
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I think many of you will return to the religion one day
by free2beme ini don't mean this as an insult, more of a life experience thing.
i saw a lot of people leave in my years there and a lot were angry with the religion and the people, and some even protested the kingdom halls and wrote things in the newspapers.
a lot though, came back in time, as it was just the comfort zone they felt at ease in.
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My 80 year old father was reinstated when he discovered he had lung cancer. My oldest brother went back because he does not like being shunned, he does not follow any of their rules, does what he wants. When I discovered I
had a brain aneurysm, it never entered my mind to return to the organizaion or even to contact them. I recieved the last rites by a Catholic priest and put my life in the hands of the doctors. If that did not cause me to return to
the organization, nothing will. I even told my df'd brother that if our jw sisters wanted to have a relationship with me, I am not sure I would want one; after thirty years, I don't even know them anymore. I made a life for
myself and could never go back. I don't believe anything they teach or say.
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It just keeps getting better and better.
by Sour Grapes intwo comments at last weeks meeting:.
1. the education that we receive at the kingdom.
hall is the best in the universe.. 2. the movie "the advengers" should not be seen because.
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1. The education that we receive at the Kingdom
Hall is the best in the universe.
WOW! Better than Oxford, Yale, Harvard? So I could be an expert window washer or janitor as opposed to a scientist, English professor or
whatever else those other Universities could help/educate me to practice?
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The ECHO of broadcast emotions..........the empty chair where "god" sits
by Terry ini spent sunday with a number of ex-jw's in a very pleasant get-together.
we all discussed the usual things, of course.. one thing i always notice.
how much of the "flavor" of god remains in one form or another.. with ex-jw's the distaste for religion is the strongest without necessarily including distaste for "belief".. religion is the package and god is the contents, you might say.. but-wait, there's more!.
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So do you think there is an innate sense that draws humans to a belief in God or is it an idea that is taught/inculcated and becomes difficult for some to discard. By your post, I would say you think the later but just want
to ask.
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The ECHO of broadcast emotions..........the empty chair where "god" sits
by Terry ini spent sunday with a number of ex-jw's in a very pleasant get-together.
we all discussed the usual things, of course.. one thing i always notice.
how much of the "flavor" of god remains in one form or another.. with ex-jw's the distaste for religion is the strongest without necessarily including distaste for "belief".. religion is the package and god is the contents, you might say.. but-wait, there's more!.
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Thanks for your explanation. I understand what you are saying.