My granddaugher got me hooked on the tv series "Friends" while I was visiting her recently. Now I have bought the 10 CDs of the series and I have been watching it every night. I have also bought about 40 books in the last few months. I have plenty with which to entertain myself. Today I bought the CD of "Casablanca" and the book "THE YEARS OF LYNDON JOHNSON/THE PASSAGE OF POWER." It looks like it is going to be interesting. I like history.
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Whats up?
by Iamallcool inwe can talk about anything but please do not get this thread locked.
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UK child abuse lawyer contact details (keep bumping this thread)
by cedars ini've already received enquiries from those interested in hiring a lawyer to pursue their own child abuse claims in the wake of the candace conti verdict.
obviously, rick simons has excelled in his handling of the case, but i'm sure it wouldn't be practical for him to represent each-and-every potential client who are victims of child abuse.
i am thinking particularly of victims of molesters in the uk, where i am from.. i have no legal experience, and i am not personally acquianted with any lawyers specializing in this field.
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**MUST READ** AlanF's email to Knocking.org
by sf inthis is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.
alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.
however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.
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What a great letter. BUMP.
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When you left the JW/WT religion, were you really an adult ?
by Phizzy ini spent decades in the religion, i was born in, so my world view, my education, my social skills, all were dictated by and controlled by the "religion".. i feel that when i left i was immature in many ways, i had never faced my own mortality, i knew nothing of the reality of evolution, i had never voted in an election, i had never donated blood, i had never confronted the reality of the bibles status etc etc etc.. it was like a child walking off in to the blue yonder, no knowledge, no experience.. the main problem was, i had never really made my own decisions, i had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.. it was frightening and yet exilarating at the same time, but i was woefully equipped for the real world.. how did you feel ?
confidant ?
perplexed ?
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My family went without me- one more time. No one attended afterwards.
WOW! BOTR, you really had an influence on your family. I wish I had been as strong as you. I am the fifth daughter and the eighth chlid out of 10 children in our family. My older brother remaked to me a few years ago that when he got back from the Navy in 1958, he saw how my sisters bossed me around all the time. I was 14 and I guess I was accostomed to being told what to do by them. They were shocked when I left the borg and could not understand how they no longer had any influence on me. I guess I was a late starter, but I finally did get tired of being told what to do and think by everyone around me. I admire your strength and tenacity
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When you left the JW/WT religion, were you really an adult ?
by Phizzy ini spent decades in the religion, i was born in, so my world view, my education, my social skills, all were dictated by and controlled by the "religion".. i feel that when i left i was immature in many ways, i had never faced my own mortality, i knew nothing of the reality of evolution, i had never voted in an election, i had never donated blood, i had never confronted the reality of the bibles status etc etc etc.. it was like a child walking off in to the blue yonder, no knowledge, no experience.. the main problem was, i had never really made my own decisions, i had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.. it was frightening and yet exilarating at the same time, but i was woefully equipped for the real world.. how did you feel ?
confidant ?
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Phizzy wrote:
I had never voted in an Election, I had never donated blood, I had never confronted the reality of the Bibles status etc etc etc.
The main problem was, I had never really made my own decisions, I had never had to consider all the evidence and then decide for myself.
I was df'd as an adult, 40 yrs old. I have been so busy going to school and just making a living that I have not had the time to consider anything else. I did vote for the first time in 1980. I am just now, since I got on exjw sites, considering the status of the Bible and if some of what is written there is really the way it happened. Like you, I have never considered all the evidence and decided for myself. I find it disturbing and confusing. I have ordered several books and one, "Misquoting Jesus," has changed my view of the NT. I am still in learning mode and I have been out for nearly 28 years. WOW! That's a long time. I am also a born-in and it really messes with your mind when you have never known anything else.
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Ultimately it is the child who should stop the abuse according to the GB!
by life is to short inon page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
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Sorry, I hit they button to soon.
I agree that the advice given is correct and agree with what 00DAD posted. Also,as another poster stated, when children are taught to obey without question, it becomes easier for pedophiles to abuse them. Children should be encourged to protest if they feel they do not like what is being done to them, but the borg has not promoted this.This also goes for adult members. The organization demands obedience without dissent from all it's members. The borg has already been found wanting in protecting it's members from abuse by it's policy of keeping secret the presense of these pedophiles in the congregations. They are being hypocritical in what they say in this book. Candace told and it did not do her any good until she got an attotney. The borg refused to help her!! A child or a young person should never be made to feel responsible for the abuse. How in the world can a child behave seductively or ask for the abuse. That is just absurd.
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Ultimately it is the child who should stop the abuse according to the GB!
by life is to short inon page 171 of the "learn from the great teacher" book published in 2003 it shows a picture of a very cute little girl holding a ragged ann doll.
she is sitting on a chair in her bedroom with her hand out toward a man that is coming toward her.. the paragraphs say "so just as jesus needed protection, you also need to be protected from grown-ups-and even from other children-who may try to have sex with you.
usually, these people will pretend to be your friends.
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What are the chances that someone will return to the Borg. after 10-20yrs.?
by jam innow in my case my family probably.
think, because i am living in sin ( not married but we have.
been togather for 18 yrs.
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I am a born-in, out 20 years, I would never ever return even though some in my family believe that I will. When I left, I never intended to go back. After what I have learned since leaving, my resolve to avoid that organization like the plague has only increased .My brother was df'd at age 17, he is now 64. He has never contemplated returning. We are both over and out!!
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So sorry for your plight, I am in a somewhat similar situation. Thank goodness I never alowed my children to get baptized and they are not part of the borg. All my family, including cousins and aunts/uncles are part of the borg and so no one has anything to do with me. I know it is harder for you because it's your son. I hate the organization and hope it's demise will come soon. They have destroyed so many familes it's unbelievable. I hope your son sees the light of the real truth. Don't give up hope. I am sure he will truly miss your relationship.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie (redux)
by Leolaia inin september 2004, farkel posted an article on this forum called "rutherford exposed: the story of berta and bonnie.
" his essay, which subsequently was translated into several languages and which received over 10,000 views after the first month, spawned a thread that ran 28 pages and contained the collaborative research efforts of many in jwd.
this thread was thought by some moderators to be the best in the forum -- not necessarily because of the claims in the original essay but because it inspired a staggering amount of research aimed at assessing the credibility of the claims made in the essay, as well as adding to our knowledge of this fascinating yet obscure chapter of watchtower history.
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I found the info via google. I stared to download it, and in fact, downloaded a few pages until I realized how many pages it contained. I bookmarked it for the future so I can download the pages I want. Sounds interesting. I am sure it took a lot of time and research to come up with all the information contained in the article.