Posts by sarahsmile

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Trinitarians! Who is Jesus Christ's father the Holy Spirit or the Father?

by booker-t in

this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.

the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.

the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.

sarahsmile

I understand God the Father. God the son as Hebrew 1. But I get lost on God the Holy Ghost! Boo! So I try to understand.

Wt a god sucks! Jesus is a god.

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Trinitarians! Who is Jesus Christ's father the Holy Spirit or the Father?

by booker-t in

this is one question that trinitarians try to avoid because they have created a very embarrassing problem.

the bible is very clear when the angel tells mary that holy spirit will overshadow her and she will become pregnant.

the angel does not say the father will overshadow her but the holy spirit will and if the holy spirit is a person that would make him the father of jesus.

sarahsmile

"John 5:18 says clearly Jesus was making Himself equal with God. That is not the words of any other man talking, that is Scripture. They knew who He was claiming to be."

No the Jews made Jesus equal with God. Jesus never said he was equal.

So it is not that clear. The Jews assumed he was making himself equal to God the motive was to have an excuse or reason to kill him. The people assumed because Jesus called God his father. Perhaps prior to Jesus they never called YHWH Father. Although I do not know what they were thinking, but maybe in their minds it would appear that he was claiming equal only because he used the word Father or they just needed to find fault. I go with reason to find fault to kill him. Jesus could say what ever and they would find a reason to have him killed.

John 5:18 "Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God."

Not too sure if I could ever believe the fully man and fully God

Because, John 5:19 The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Fully God can do nothing of himself! I would think fully God would not need to see another God do. After all Jesus was an adult yet fully God, right. Smile.

Anyhow Jonza just a thought! Just saying that concept lacks a little.

I am not jumping on the band wagon with everyone here! if people want to believe Jesus was fully God while a man it not any worse than WT making him an angel or two.

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BREAKING NEWS ! 89 Jehovah's Witnesses lost their homes in Valparaiso,Chile

by raymond frantz in

89 jehovah's witnesses lost their houses (read full article here).

news are coming through now , 20 days, later about a fire that destroyed the houses of 89 jehovahs witnesses in valparaiso,chile.

according to jw.org ,on april 13, 2014 a wildfire started by strong pacific winds destroyed most of the old city of valparaiso, that lies in the coastline of chile.the fire destroyed almost 3,000 homes and thousands were displaced as a result.so far the authorites have reported 15 people dead ,one of the them a jehovahs witness..

sarahsmile

Hopefully the former JWs will get help!

Awful, it is just awful!

Prayers are going to the people of Chile of all different faiths and non faiths.

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"Only if you get a court order." wink, wink

by rebel8 in

recently had a discussion with a surgeon who said jw parents "usually" (her word, not mine) privately say they will take blood if the provider gets a court order.. yet another person, with no connection to dubs and no motive to make this up, saying this same thing.

interesting.. i'm surprised the thought police have not come out with an article saying jehoopla reads the hearts and judges as bloodguilty those who are relieved when forced to take blood..

sarahsmile

Blood transfusion can be given without family member or elders knowing. So yes I can see this happening.

I provided in my files that blood transfusions would not be done in front of family and friends but strictly in private.

Good post and important to encourage HAs to go private blood transfusions. No one will know.

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Jehovahs Witnesses immediately formed a disaster relief committee to aid the victims.

by suavojr in

first, i thought they closed the branch in chile?

and second, check out the comment:.

+1 718 560 5000. chile: jason d. reed, tel.

sarahsmile

Sorry to hear about the people who lost their homes and loved ones due to this fire!

I do not care who builds their homes it is up to the owners. Hopefully it will turn out for the best.

At least they have each other.

I hope exJWs are helping each other during such hard times! It can be very hard on newly dfd ones!

Hopefully they are not all alone and families will help each other instead of tear each other apart.

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How Do You Think The Last 100 Years of Kingdom Rule Has Been Going?

by minimus in

your comments will be appreciated..

sarahsmile

Like this

If one is a practicing JW,I would say not so good, because it is a 100 year delay of Jesus earthly kingdom rule over religious and political powers! Delaying a perfect paradise earth.

But, just think how many could be saved if Jesus stays invisible 100 more years! Joke! LOL

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Did you ever write your disassociation letter?

by make yourself in

but never gave it to the elders or anyone in the congregation?

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sarahsmile

Good now you can move on and completely away from this cult! The younger the easier it will be for you to move on.

Just to let you know,I faded for the same reasons you wrote your letter with one difference, I just do not care what they mark on my files at the kh!

The elders can check the box on a card dfd,da, or A ,and send a copy to Bethel. The point is I do not care what they want to mark on this card.

Unlike me, you have learned at a early age that it is a lie and cult! That makes old timers like me feel like posting all these years was worth something!

Just realise that in the end it is all the same as long as your out. Freedom!

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Interview with cultBgone

by cultBgone in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. can't, have family still in.

were you a born in or a convert?.

convert.

sarahsmile

That should help JWs who read! That is reality!

Nice to see you.

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The WT and GB compared to Catholics before the reformation.

by EndofMysteries in

i just read this article about luther and i'll quote a paragraph.

it's interesting how you can substitute a few words and see it identical to the wt.

now let me substitute pope and catholic church for governing body and watchtower...... .

sarahsmile

How awful that GB thinks they can take the place of Holy Spirit,Substitute for Christ!

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The WT and GB compared to Catholics before the reformation.

by EndofMysteries in

i just read this article about luther and i'll quote a paragraph.

it's interesting how you can substitute a few words and see it identical to the wt.

now let me substitute pope and catholic church for governing body and watchtower...... .

sarahsmile

Perry very true! :-)

Anyone JWs can read the Catholic encylopedia under excommunication, including public and private reproof, and see how WT borrowed the concept!

Eye opener!