Rebuilding94: Welcome! I'm fairly new here myself. What part of Canada are you from? You said "freezing" so I assume it's not Vancouver/Victoria nor the Niagara belt. Quite a few here are from Canada.
Once again, welcome!
Posts by acsot
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28NEW TO YOU ALL...MY STORY
by rebuilding94 ini was born into the witnesses in 1962, i was disfellowshiped when i was 18, because i decided to marry a catholic.
our first son was born 4 years later, and thinking i had to teach our son about god, which in it self is not a bad thought, so the only thing i new was the jw's teaching's, and yes i went back.. it took them 11 months to decide weather they would reinstate me, 11 month's of no one talking to me, no one coming to see my new baby, allways leaving befor the meeting was completely over, so as not to feel any more hurt then nessecary.
after i was reinstated i proceeded to raise our 3 children as jw's.
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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 12-8-02 WT STUDY
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 12-8-02 wt study .
october 15, 2002 wt, page 13 .
( red highlighted comments are wts ; rest is mine other than titles and subtitles).
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acsot
Blondie,
As much as I love your reviews, I'm afraid that one day I'll get mixed up and instead of spewing forth the skewered Watchtower world view of things, I'll instead pipe up and recite one of your insightful comments. It may just be the ticket I'll eventually use if I decide to become IMMEDIATELY DISFELLOWSHIPPED for apostasy, but am not quite ready for that step yet!
Looking forward to more!
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Did Being JW make YOU a Social Misfit or HERMIT?
by Smoldering Wick inas i sat quietly in my apartment...staring at the computer screen, i got this overwhelming feeling of being totally alone.
don't get me wrong, i feel comfortable alone.
but, how did i end up this way?
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acsot
I feel more of a misfit with some of my lifelong JW "friends" than I do with those horrible worldly people. Non JWs seem to just accept you with no garbage attached, such as endless conditions and making sure you're saying the right thing all the time, scared of speaking your mind. You can rejected by worldly people, for sure, but usually if you do something to them, i.e. if you're rude, or try and take advantage or whatever. At least it's more honest than JWs who will pretend to be your friend because of the clique you're in - if you're a pioneer, you automatically get pioneer friends (Not!) - but actually couldn't care less about you.
I'm in the process of getting to know more people at work on a social level (after many years of working here!) and they are very open, fun, non-judgmental people. Sometimes I've just observed how others act in social situations to learn sort of what to say or not to say, or I just pick up on a conversation already going on.
You're right, though, the hermetically sealed little world of JWs certainly encourages social misfitness (OMG, did I just invent a word? )
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Our Mother is in a coma :(
by noidea inkarla and i came home for a quick shower and a change of clothes.
we ask that you keep our mother and our family in your prayers.
we posted a few weeks ago that our mother had been diagnosed with pancreas cancer and was given 6-18 months with chemo.
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acsot
My heart goes out to you and my thoughts are with you. Hope you find some comfort knowing how many people are thinking about and praying for you.
((((((((hugs)))))))))
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Do you still read the bible?
by JH in.
not going to the meetings anymore, do you still feel the need to read god's word?
edited by - jh on 5 december 2002 14:52:45.
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acsot
NewYork44M and Mulan:
One of the things I discovered about myself during my transition from being a faithful witness to my current status is that I am not now, nor ever was, a spiritual person. In the past mistook obedience to an organization for spirituality
Wow! I was just thinking this same thing of myself the other evening. I opened a Catholic translation, with commentary, and it was all very interesting and of course totally different from WTS teachings but in the middle I thought "I'm really not that interested in this." I'd like to learn of Jesus as a historical person and learn more about the good he did, and use that as a positive influence in my life, just the same way I'd use the example of the Dalai Lama or Mother Theresa or others as good examples. But spirituality? Not really. At least not now. Perhaps in time.
Wow (again)! People think just as I do! This place is amazing.
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Detachment and Experimentation
by joelbear ini don't know why i keep burdening this group.
no one else in my life can really relate to the intertwined emotions i am going through.
my bear friends are there, including mitch, and they they try to keep my cheered up.
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acsot
Joelbear,
You are not being a burden. I also urge you to read and do the exercises in "Feeling Good -- The New Mood Therapy" by David D. Burns, M.D, as well as his subsequent book "Intimate Connections". No, it doesn't just deal with romantic relationships, but also friendships in general. He's very helpful, and it's at times almost step-by-step as to what to do and how to do it; some of us from dysfunctional families never really learned to connect with others, and then being part of a cult made it even more difficult. What you're going through is normal. Don't despair.
Thinking of you!
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So How Bad Is The World REALLY?
by Englishman inin the uk, if you drop a wallet in the road in error, what are the chances of it being handed in to a police station by the finder with all the contents still intact?.
when i read that in the times some weeks ago, i was very skeptical.
then i thought of all the people that i know, friends, aquaintances and pub pals, and i reckon that 90% of them are basically honest with their fellow man.
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acsot
I have to agree that the JW mindset sure gets in the way of seeing people for who they really are, which seems to be, for the most part, pretty decent. Now that I've started lightening up a bit I've noticed how kind people are. In fact, just yesterday at the store getting my watch battery replaced, one of the employees noticed a paperback under my arm, asked if I enjoyed reading mystery novels and offered me two of his to read. He regularly lends out his books to customers, has bags of them and I doubt he even keeps track. Also, a woman a few blocks from my house offered me some plants and seeds from her garden for next spring (I'm new to home ownership and have my very own First Garden!). Nice people everywhere. We were too blind to it all as JWs.
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I Seened it With My Own Eyes @o@
by Funchback inthings i saw as a jw:.
* the "f" word spelled out on the information board in the back of the hall.
the person used the tacks used for posting letters and talks and spelled out the expletive.
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acsot
Brothers switching or exchanging hours and magazines placed when they should turn in their reports, "I've got five more magazines more than usual, but am a couple of hours ahort - anyone wants to exchange?" "Yeah, me, I've got a few hours but no magazines." Problem for my friend was that after a year or so, he was in deep debt - he "owed" 40-50 hours to others, and never seemed to be able to "pay back".
Why didn't I ever think of that? That's funny!
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Should I go Decorate my old KH? GRIN>
by NaruNaruChan in.
so this morning at around 5am, my girlfriend and i were driving in north fresno and we noticed that there are two huge christmastree like trees in front of the hall, outside of the oh-so-welcoming gates... and so i got to thinking... and... hmm.... should i???
in the words of ts eliot, "do i dare disturb the universe?".
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Absolutely decorate - and if possible, use some sort of glue (Crazy Glue, Contact Cement or whatever) to make sure the decorations
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What do you miss?
by happyout inok, i'm not sure how popular this will be, but i have to ask.
is there anything you miss from being a dub?
since my family is still in, i miss getting together after assemblies and hanging out.
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acsot
I miss knowing that when I traveled, there were built in "friends" who would show me around the town just because I was a dub.
Ditto to that, although I'm still "in", working at the fade. However, from websites I've visited over the past couple of years, i.e. eco-tourism, or specific activity type of travel groups, I guess one could still feel a connection to others in other countries. You'd still have a common cause, or hobby or interest or whatever, just like dubs have common beliefs, supposedly. There are enough regional and national differences (i.e., what's permitted or not in the way of dancing, entertainment, grooming, etc.) to have made me wonder at times about the supposed unity or uniformity of dubdom. I've visited Kingdom Halls in other countries where we weren't even greeted, it was like "big deal, a couple of more people landing in our hall." On the other hand, visited some super friendly congregations, as in Virginia.