Posts by blindnomore

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The "Secrecy Policy

by Celestial in

i've given this recent lawsuit quite a bit of thought and come to sound conclusions.

after examining other organization's child-protection policies (namely churches), what i've come to realize is there's a one-size fits all solution that's socially acceptable; all information obtained through witnesses and confessions by organizational personnel is be used to aid and abet law-enforcement.

there's no in-between or anything short of this objective that's socially acceptable.

blindnomore

Celestial, You sound naive if you are not or have never been clergy class(elder) of Jehovah's Witness. However, there's no excuse in your part choose to be naive. You should have known better by now how the Watchtower operates. You can read their decietful double policies from everywhere if you want to. Do you care for the truth and justice?

I am taking my precious time and will post here yet another time just for you and please open your eyes and ears!

I have a first-hand knowledge and experiences that the Watchtower is anything but what it says in JW.media.org.

It's all about saving their face and their reputation, Period! The Watchtower will do and say anything and everything to conceal their ugly truth. The Watchtower not only condoning the crimes but punishing the victims and their family memebers for bringing out and reporting child sexual abuse cases within their congregations. Once again you that I am telling you this from my very own personal experience. Do you know how the Watchtower handle reporting the crime to the authority?

'As a friend of the parents of the victim'(No mentioning names of reporters let alone church afflilation to the victims)

How heinously decieving! And then the elders claim of their part in reporting the crime. Yep! they technically did report. Once again I am reminding you. I am telling you this from my very own experience. I want you to try to report child sexual abuse anonymousely as do Jehovah's Witness elders. See what happen!

Neither the Child Protective Service nor Police will take such anonymouse reports!

The elders of Watchtower, in the meantime, turn around and will punish you even for you to believing and promoting their own the above public statememt that you have posted.(One of my family members was disfellowshipped for shwoing this printed statement to local elders and was accused of handling apostate meterial. The elders never even took look at what he had in his hand). That is just for the public. But for you, what the watchtower says through elders is the only polices and it's abhorrent!

I hope this doesn't happen to your children, grandchildren, neicies, nephews. How shame if that were to only way to wake you up!

(Somebody, the Watchtower claims one thing in their publications and yet shows their true color in court and in their star chamber judicial process. In my opinion, the Watchtower operates the very same way that of North Korean dictators do)

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This was my 'Sign'

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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in my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.

i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.

so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.

blindnomore

Oh my god, How sweet of you all! Where were you when I so desperately needed you 25 years ago? I envy MSGG for all the support and helpful informations she's getting from you. None of these were availble then. I am so impressed by you all!

MSGG, Can you see how sincerely you are cared from these accused as 'mentaly deseased' by your elders and organization? Please do take full advantage of all the referances that's been handled to you by these caring people. But you have to really dig into them. Take your time. I would also like to recommand you Ray Franz' second book 'In Search of Christian Freedom.' It's a must read book especially for those of doubting witnesses.

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Watchtower's Billion Dollars of Property Cannot Be Sold until Outcome of Conti Appeal

by Dogpatch in

30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.

i am passing this on.

cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.

blindnomore

BOTR, You are confused between O J Simpson and Kendrick(Candace Conti's molester) with the Watchtower of New York.

We are talking the Defendant with assets of $300million cash and $1billion worth properities.

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Where is LeavingWT?

by Magwitch in

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he has always been one of my absolute favorite posters.

where has he gone?.

blindnomore

I have been wondering about him myself for a while. I am also wondering about Ziddna the Dragon? Is she Ok?

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Candace Conti - Preparing For The Appeal

by Joe Grundy in

no doubt, wtbts ny will appeal this to the best of their ability, and they have almost unlimited financial resources behind them.. i wish i was in a position to fund candace through the appeal, but i'm not, nor i am cognisant with california law or the general fedaral law in us.. but i was a police officer in the uk for 30 years, 10 of that as a commander of a fraud squad, member of the national working group on fraud, europol, etc.

i did spend some time in the us working with fbi on a joint case.. my point is this.

i've read through some of the court papers including depositions and the one that stuck in my mind was the dep taken from the witness who worked in bethel and was asked about 'collated data' re child abusers.

blindnomore

I agree, mind blown. Joe here's Mr. Rick Simons's contact info:

[email protected]

510-582-1080(phone)

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This made me awfully sad

by corpusdei in

just came across this post, where a disfellowshipped blogger posted the letter from his witness mother in which she cuts off the relationship between them.

although i was the one to slam the door and cut off communication with my viper of a mother, my heart goes out to this guy - it's to their shame that the witnesses allow their religion to do this to family..

blindnomore

'Mother thinks that shunning is the loving thing to do.'

Therefore shunning behaviour is compromised in the name of cult(or whatever). I agree NOT!

It was easiler to shun non-family members for me. It was Mainly because we hardly run into each other except at the kingdom Hall. I did shunned disfellowshipped witness at the KH by not carrying out any conversation with them but greeted them if I ran into them at the parking lot, at the door of the KH. 'Hi' 'Good to see you' 'keep it up' etc and at least smiled at them. I never took that as violation of shunning rule. That was encourgement! Nothing wrong to encourage your fellow human IMO, let alone your former friends.

As far as concerning disfellowshipped family members, we(my imediate family and I) never shunned them. We limited our association publickly but privately. We took in our DF'ed grown child once. He had no where to go. He just showed up one late night. He was in need and we made ourselves availble to him (I would have done it for anyone). For the consequences, the elders took Book Study out of our house and we were refrain from certain privilliage. So what? Our own advancement or whatever you call it, was last thing in our mind. We did what was right.

For mother to shun her own son and writing a such letter in believing it as a proof of demonstrating love, at a time when he needs her more than ever?

I am sorry it's beyond my area. I am not buying it. There's nothing will convince me for a such behavior. You can blame on cult and policing yourself at all times including activetly shunning your own flash, but then why don't you policing what you do to yourself and don't follow the rules for 100% of the times.

Have you ever drank overly as a loyal witness? Engage in oral sex? Engage in clique among your fellower believers? Did you ignore needy elderly? Have you ever saved unnecessary seats at the convention disregarding others need?...................

Who of us completely innocent in following any of these rules? Some of which DFing offense. Did you go talk to your elders out of love for your own salvation? Why are we so generous and excusable to ourselves(using imperfection excuse) and yet all of sudden, act like 100% rule follower when it comes applying rules to others including your own flesh?

My sister-in-law is shunning her brother. Her brother never treated her differently while she was disfellowshipped for all those years. Why different? Is she more spiritural? She is not even regular in her meeting attandance. Her brother was an elder, one highly respected by R&F, during entire time she was DF'ed. My SIN is living in morbid fear of elders and suffering with paranoia for sometimes and lacking a sense of Justice.

Encouraging your children to shun your df'ed ex is another thing I am furious. It's all out of selfishness. You only think about your own vendetta or agenda. You have no your children's best interest what so ever. You have no right to take their other parent away from them. (sorry for rant.)

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Calling for action!

by blindnomore in

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no, i am not asking you to sign the petition!.

the poster, blindersoff1 commented following on one of the threads:.

please try to use search friendly terms in your comments.

blindnomore

slimboyfat, of course you can say kingdumb hells, washtowel and slave buggery, kingdom maladies, field circus, Rudefraud, Crooklin, borg, JW, WTS, DF, JC, etc, etc....after first appropriately mentioning 'the Watchtower,' 'Jehovah's Witness(es),' and their full terms. We are not giving up our fun by any means!

freetosee, thx back.

Diest, no doubt your above comment will show up on google search under 'Governing Body,' 'Jehovah's Witnessess,' 'Watchtower,' and 'Apostate.'

If type, 'Jehovah's Witness' in Google search you will see what I am talking about. It's all happening because of YOU and YOUR Contributions to ex-Jehovah's Witnesses sites.

Google 'Watchtower Scandal' for another example.

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Calling for action!

by blindnomore in

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no, i am not asking you to sign the petition!.

the poster, blindersoff1 commented following on one of the threads:.

please try to use search friendly terms in your comments.

blindnomore

JWOP, I guess less Tofu for me.

baltar, I am afraid you probably are right.(who's on your avatar, btw?)

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Calling for action!

by blindnomore in

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no, i am not asking you to sign the petition!.

the poster, blindersoff1 commented following on one of the threads:.

please try to use search friendly terms in your comments.

blindnomore

Talesin: Same here!

BlindersOff1: It sure can make a big difference. Thank you for the suggestion once again.

00DAD: ILOVETOFU ? (Too much aabreviation for me)

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Did anyone else get somewhat offended by the term "rank and file" that the WT attorney used.

by life is to short in

i was just surprised by that term being used by jim mccabe when he said "jonathan kendrick was not a leader or a pastor, he was just a rank-and-file member.".

i thought that was only an apostate term and also what a put down to us lowly members.

we are just a rank-and-file person.

blindnomore

What I drew out from Rank & File comment was that the Watchtower leaders, including Mr. McCabe are very familiar with JWN term. Which can mean,

1. They are regular lurkers, or/and

2. Mr. McCabe or/and some of them have account(s) here on JWN. (I wonder who they can be?!)