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  "You will live where you are told to live!"

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of our most dogmatic, authoritarian elders at the congregation i used to attend made this comment.. .

  the wts has beat the drum of absolute authority so long and hard that the idea of free will, or even the notion of a god who might take in to consideration the wants, likes, and desires of his own people has been strangled out of the jw psychology.. .

  in one of his talks, brother that's final informed the congregation that it is pointless for us to engage in speculation about how our lives will be in the new system.

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  Nambo

  Note how its Jehovah thats going to tell us what to do, even though the Bible tells us its Jesus that is completely in command untill after the 1000 years.

  What he is really saying subcontiously is, "we will tell you what to do, but we will say its Jehovah so that you obey us"

  Even when I was in, i was starting to get the impression that this Paradise Earth would be rather more along the lines of a Stalinist Gulag.

  AS for what Jehovah himself says,

  21 They will build houses and dwell in them;
  they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
  22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
  or plant and others eat.
  For as the days of a tree,
  so will be the days of my people;
  my chosen ones will long enjoy
  the work of their hands.
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  any south londoners out there?

  by londonlady in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  or should i say 'sowf ladanars'?

  ;) pm me if you like.

  looking2 find fellow apostates in my general area.

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  Sure thing Phizzy, but do remind her that we are here and as she is asking for fellow apostates, maybe we can be of help with her problems?

  She might even be known to us, that would bring her real moral support.
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  Immortal life or Everlasting life?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's very interesting that 1st corinthians 15:53 has been cited in the watchtower study articles last week and this week.

  that scripture, speaking about humans, translates the greek word 'athanasia' to mean 'immortality'.

  can that be correct?

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  Nambo

  12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

  13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

  14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

  15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
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  Immortal life or Everlasting life?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's very interesting that 1st corinthians 15:53 has been cited in the watchtower study articles last week and this week.

  that scripture, speaking about humans, translates the greek word 'athanasia' to mean 'immortality'.

  can that be correct?

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  This "test" at the end of the 1000 years business, can somebody convince me this is what the Bible says, or is it just another Watchtower doctrine that though we claim to have left the troof, we still adhere too?

  I cannot find anything that implies mankind is resurrected and trained for a 1000 years then "tested"?

  What I read is that there will still be literal nations, the ones Jesus rules with a rod of iron, and that only the Annointed get resurrected at the start of the 1000 years, these certainly dont get "tested", in fact they are the target of the nations that Satan leads against Jerusalem at the end of the 1000 years.

  Then comes the general resurrection, at the end of the 1000 years, and they are not "tested", but are judged according to what had previously been written about them in the book of life, thats why its called the judgement.

  5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

  6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

  7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

  8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

  9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
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  Immortal life or Everlasting life?

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it's very interesting that 1st corinthians 15:53 has been cited in the watchtower study articles last week and this week.

  that scripture, speaking about humans, translates the greek word 'athanasia' to mean 'immortality'.

  can that be correct?

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  Nambo

  To muddy the waters a bit, I belive that Death is done away with at the end of the 1000 years, during Jesus 1000 reign people will still die.

  I wonder if the 100 years of Isaiah 65 v 20 are not a 100 year chance to learn good as the Witnesses teach, but the literal lifespan of people, those that are good come back in the ressurection at the end of the 1000, years, not at the beggining like the Witnesses teach, those that are bad get the second death.

  for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

  We also have the River of Water of Life that runs from Eziekiels temple, what would happen to people who didnt get to drink this?

  What was Gods original purpose for man?, that they had to eat from the tree of life, I think for folk on the Earth, there will be the same original arrangements for getting everlasting life, as long as one sticks to those arrangements, which is not the same as immortality.

  What happens after the 1000 years when detah is no more Iam unclear on.
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  My demon experience

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one recent afternoon, me and a buddy were taking a trek around a nearby neighborhood and made our way past a delapidated house that had all the familiar symptoms of being haunted.

  he suggested we check it out so, of course, we did.

  it looked like it had been abandoned probably 30-40 years earlier but the previous owners had left behind a small coffee table.

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  Sorry again WMF, not a sonic boom either, Iam old enough to have experienced Sonic booms from Concorde over London back in the 70s.

  This was against the glass by my head.

  Its no use anyone coming up with these theories unless you where actually there to experience it like I was.

  Iam ex millitary as well so have experienced a variety of big bangs!
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  My demon experience

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one recent afternoon, me and a buddy were taking a trek around a nearby neighborhood and made our way past a delapidated house that had all the familiar symptoms of being haunted.

  he suggested we check it out so, of course, we did.

  it looked like it had been abandoned probably 30-40 years earlier but the previous owners had left behind a small coffee table.

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  Nambo

  Sorry to dissappoint you Witness my Fury, it was nothing like a bird flying into the window, well maybe if an Albotross flew at 100 MPH, but then I would have expected the glass to break,

  You are familiar with medicine balls?, imagine one being fired from a cannon and aimed at my head, there is nothing that could have made that explosive thump and not broken the old fashioned single pane glass, that wasnt supernatural.

  And like I said, people came out of houses around the close to see what an earth had happened.
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  My demon experience

  by SweetBabyCheezits in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one recent afternoon, me and a buddy were taking a trek around a nearby neighborhood and made our way past a delapidated house that had all the familiar symptoms of being haunted.

  he suggested we check it out so, of course, we did.

  it looked like it had been abandoned probably 30-40 years earlier but the previous owners had left behind a small coffee table.

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  Nambo

  Back in the day when the Field Ministry was still a joy to me, It was one afternoon when I returned from a particularily good Ministry and was very full of the fruits of the Spirit, so much so in fact that I was sitting next to my front room window and praying.

  Now my head was maybe 18 inches from the glass, I had no curtains, mid-prayer there was the most allmighty bang on the window right next to my head, as if somebody had fired a medicine ball from a cannon and aimed it at me.

  Of course I jumped out of my skin and looked to see nothing there, I lived on the end of a culdesac so there was no traffic, nobody, just a quite and still, sunny afternoon.

  I went out the front door to see what an earth could have done that, the noise was so loud that people where coming out of a couple of the neighbouring houses to see what had happened.

  Didnt even break the glass.
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  Frustrated

  by jemba in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sitting in the local cafe enjoying a coffee this morning when the witnessing group showed up.. before i had a chance to escape i was sharing my table with 2 'sisters'.

  one was my best friend for years until i stopped going to meetings.

  (such conditional friendships).. before i knew it i was being bombarded with questions like how i was going spiritually.

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  Rather than tell them what they got wrong, concentrate on what they havnt got right.

  One of the cleaners at work is a Witness, I allways get him to promise to tell me as soon as the society say anything about the "New World Order".

  Allmost every Tom Dick and Harry is aware of the Globalist push towards a One World Government, yet those who claim to be keeping on the watch seem to be totally unaware of it!

  Biblical prophesy unfoldimg in front of their very eyes, yet because they claim everything happened 100 years ago, they miss whats happening now.

  So you could say, "Isnt it exciting how Revelation is coming true with this "New World Order", why even the Pope is backing it", and watch their blank and uncomprehending faces.
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  G'mornin e'rybody! Sing along with conviction!!! Kiss the Son lest God be angry, and you perish in the way!!!!

  by La Falta Habitacion Por Sr Hor-Hey!! in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the rest of that song is completely trash, but you have to admit that part where the beat changes and it gets all thunderous.....is serious business.

  i mean it goes from yellow canaries to godzilla in a flash and you can't help but to get into it.

  leave it to the wt to not capitalize on the part that's actually good.

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  Nambo

  That was about my favourite, I still sing it sometimes.

  Reminds me of when I was new in, I boughta Kingdom melodies cassette tape, thinking there would be singing and I could learn the words, it wasnt like that at all so only played it the once, but it was left in my cassette player, forgotten.,

  Most fortuitouse when an Elder came around and happened to peek at the sort of music I played when no one was around.