i read the postings about 1975 and have the same feeling about the 1988 - 1989 period, the time of my baptism.
i remember the convention that year with the release of the revelation book.
with the assisi religion leaders call for peace and unity, and the events in the ussr and the release of the revelation book, i was thinking the end was very near and it would be a miracle that we could reach 1990.. so i was full of spirit, just becoming a ms and a pioneer.
Those teachings about certain assemblies being a fullfillment of Bible prophesies where around long before the Revelation Climax book Alanv, I think you will find them in the previous version, Finished Mystery was it?, and in the old Daniel book.
Just think, if you had obeyed the Faithfull and descreet slaves advice to study more, you could have discovered this information years earlier and been out!
acording to the bible, who are "anointed" in god's eyes?.
the term 'anointed' occurs in the greek scriptures.
in all but one of the verses, they refer to jesus.
Or one could abandon the JW doctrine of only 144000 Christians in favour of a doctrine that allows 12000 from each of the literal tribes of Israel, after all, God did make them a promise, then the great crowd could be annoined Christians from all tribes and nations and peoples and tongues and whats more, their number is unspecified and they dont have to be virgins.
i've been associated with several congregations, and the one thing which is common to them all is this - the preaching work is the foremost thing we are told to focus on.
(matt.
6:33 is always used to reinforce this direction).
Its worst that that, its actively discouraged to be a Christian in the JWs.
I used to visit the Old Widows in the congregation when in my late 20s, they would go to the meetings, then go home to feel lonely and that nobody cared about them, so I would go around and they would give me cups of tea and bisquits and proudly tell me about thier Husbands and their youth.
I was subsequently told off by the Elders and such activity was prohibited, single Brothers must not visit single sisters, even if they are in their 80s.
Doctrines of men are their identifying marks, not Christian Love.
i'm not sure if this is the correct place to put this, but here goes.. i've posted a few times before about different subjects.
in some of those posts ive mentioned that im gay, and in others ive referred to my wife and kids.
i thought id share a bit more information to any who were curious about this.
i finally got in contact with the overseer from my mom's congregation in ca, (i am in ks).
i wanted to let him know how to contact me in case she becomes ill or worse.
he called me back after i left a message for him.
I used to feel this way when I met Policemen, even if I hadnt done anything wrong, maybe because I was a bit naughty as a child, but we have learnt to view them as figures of authority that have power and control over us.
Now its the same with Elders, how many years have we been indoctrinated to view these men as human vessels of God will and his wrath?, you are not going to be able to undo that brainwashing right away.
to the household of god, israel, and those who go with... may you all have peace!
to try and perhaps help "calm" some of the rhetoric and propaganda on the board lately regarding what i've posted as to the apperance of spirit being, the following are links to threads/posts that contain some information regarding their appearance and nature.
for those who haven't read of such before, they are not "men", as in human... nor do they appear as human unless they put on the appearance of an "able-bodied" (vs. disabled) man.
Now I though that the term Dragon, was just a name that people used to give to what we now call dinosaurs, hense the legends such as George and the Dragon that if happened today we might call George and the Dinosaur if such creatures where not extinct.
I read some old English newspapers from the 18th century which had an article about a "dragon" that was a nuisance to a local village in that it would dig up and eat freshly buried corpses.
Is it possible that there are therefore in effect, two types of dragons?, literal flesh and blood creatures that have pretty much disappeared notwithstanding reports from the Likouala swamps in Africa where such creatures are still encountered, and Spiritual beings that have chosen to represent themselves in the manner of what must be the most awe inspiring of Gods fleshly creations?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/56753680@N06/7772828900/in/photostream/lightbox/
Not to cause offence, but I am somehow amazed that people who must have spent much of thier lives being indoctrinated in the belief of a coming Satanic / AntiChrist / Christian persecuting / Global government, should so quickly forget and reject that knowledge when its put before there eyes and coming to pass, and dont worry, just because the Bibles prophetic, doesnt mean the Watchtower is right.
So, if you can see the above picture I posted, its a screenshot I think from when they where playing this song, you will see the Phoenix which is an occultic Masonic symbol of Satan, rising from the fire which represents the chaos and destruction these people will visit upon the Earth in order for thier god to look like the good guy when he ushers in his 42 months of Satanic rule.
In the background you can see the seats coloured and arranged to show a row of inverted crosses.
Above that you have the repeating symbol of the "New World Order" as found on the back of the dollar and mentioned in the Islamic Hadiths as being the mark of the dajin or anti-christ, the single eye in the pyramid, the eye of Horus or Satan, the eye of the god of this coming rulership of the Beast.
And all the while John Lennon is singing about how wonderfull the world will be all united with no Christian God or religion.
No wonder it was found to be a "Spiritual awakening" for that is exactly what it was intended to be :-Revelation 13 v 8 "And all that dwell on the Earth shall worship him".
Not meaning to be rude to you guys though I expect to recieve such back, but from concern, you should know and be expecting to be decieved into worshipping a Global government manufactured and run by Satanists, I can understand you rejecting the notion along with rejection of the JWs and then even the Bible, but open your eyes, see it starting to come about, and wonder.
I work in government, I have had it personally confirmed that a United global government is the goal, just as it states in Revelation, please dont be conned into submitting to it just because of a catchy song and a few pretty lights.
You thought life in the JWs was bad, just wait to see what they have in store for you, read 1984 or something!
so at what point did god say....now you are human... your name is adam!.
a new skull has been found of a human ancestor 2 million years old.
when will mere evidence be enough?
I remember a cartoon from the 1% Motorcyle magazine "EasyRiders".
Had this anthropologist gleefully emerging from a cave with this very primitive looking skull announcing, "Look!, Ive found the missing link"
Behind him however, his perplexed looking colleague is emerging holding a Harley Davidson petrol tank.
Wish Id cut that out and kept it, whilst not exactly out of the mouth of babes.
i'm going to ask three questions,.
i'm going to ask the first witness, .
q. are you allowed to ask me to donate my blood so that they can extract the fractions needed, to use in an attempt to save your partner's life?''.
Why not just accuse them of being Apostates?
Show them the scriptures from thier Bible where it plainly states to "Abstain from blood", then accuse them of twisting scripture so they wouldnt have to follow Gods commandments, then make them feel really bad by reminding them of all the JW babies that died due to thier faithfullness to Jehovah and his written word and ask them why they no longer consider the word of God absolute.
according to wikipedias definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/hate_group), a hate group is an organized group or movement whose primary purpose is to promote animosity, hatred, hostility or violence toward members of a race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc.... the southern poverty law center explains that inclusion of a group in the list does not imply a group advocates or engages in violence or other criminal activity.. under the category of religious hate groups, westboro baptist church was cited for promoting hatred toward homosexuals.
creativity movement and aryan nation were mentioned as promoting racial hatred.. is it a stretch to categorize the watchtowers rhetoric toward apostates as that of a hate group?
keeping in mind that promoting or engaging in violence is not required to be identified as a hate group, does the constant degradation of other religious philosophies, organizations and adherents constitute hate speech?
"Some reason this site wouldn't let me paste copied the cite, links, etc on the board that I've had to re- type the entire reference everytime. What I do wrong?)"
Same for me mostly, I use Firefox and I get a notice saying I cannot copy and paste, but I have found a limited trick, If I copy and paste into the post a reply box before I strart typing my message, I usually get away with it the once, thats how I did your quote, now if I try it again:-
nothing, I get the grey box up telling me its not allowed.
So what I sometimes do, compose your message elsewhere, even on an e-mail page, put in all the links you want, then copy the whole lot and just paste it here.
