Randall Watters also has a video interview of Mark Palo
Mr Palo can easily be contacted through Facebook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uads9caywh4&list=uu5siqfsjttx7gijqfwo2aaa&index=15.
Randall Watters also has a video interview of Mark Palo
Mr Palo can easily be contacted through Facebook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uads9caywh4&list=uu5siqfsjttx7gijqfwo2aaa&index=15.
i suggest hire a monkey.. since all elders do if you ask them for help.
is tell a person to.
pray more.
I mean the Elders to deluded to ever wake up .
I have no intension to denigrate any of the elders on this board .
I have a close family member who is a elder (one of many) who has a very high IQ but has no
Credentials
Higher education
Training
He makes a very good living but has problems relating to the average person in real life.
I also personally know elders who are way to young in life experience or are just plain company men idiots.
i've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.
as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.
somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.
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i suggest hire a monkey.. since all elders do if you ask them for help.
is tell a person to.
pray more.
i suggest hire a monkey.. since all elders do if you ask them for help.
is tell a person to.
pray more.
I suggest hire a monkey.
Since all elders do if you ask them for help
is tell a person to
Pray more
Study more
Go to meetings more
Go out in service more
The above could just be printed on a card
and the monkey could just go around the meeting
handing them out .
You see monkeys are just as qualified as
JW elders .
i am interested in the answers for a new poll.
also, feel free to suggest other options, wording etc.agreed in full with the watchtower guidelinesagreed with shunning in general, but not for familywas stumbled by this practice but shunned as instructeddid not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people .
for me personally, i did not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people, even whilst at bethel.
I never went along with it.
Spiritual terrorism
Emotional Black mail
Mental abuse
Social execution
It causes mental illness and suicide
It self identifies a group as a CULT
they mean the leadership.
all of this is code for: one who is not ready to really study and accept how the leadership of jehovah's witnesses use the bible to their own self serving means.
but to be fair, jw's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body.
thread resurrection
i was curious what is the youngest age any jw has been baptised.
i thought it was hypocritical for jws to say wait for marriage because its such a big deal but "why wait to get baptised".
i think my step sister was 11 years old.
In the summer of 1946, I was baptized at the international convention in Cleveland, Ohio. Although I was only six years of age, I was determined to fulfill my dedication to Jehovah.
WATCHTOWER 1992 3/1 p.27
Preaching and Teaching Earth Wide
BAPTIZED AT SEVEN. Paola, who lives in western Mexico, is being raised by her grandparents.
Jehovahs Witnesses Year Book 2011 p.58
so i started a reply on the topic of "what's your status?
" and it made me think about my df hearing (sorry i can't remember the exact term for what happened).. so i was fading, living in a different country, working & making rare appearances at my kingdom hall.
i was flat sharing with a sister though.
These meetings need to be recorded .Its so easy .