Posts by thomyorke

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A missing husband or wife.

by thomyorke in

do you remember, in which "reader's question" was an article about cases, when a husband officially declared as a missing?.

(probably he is dead or captured by somali pirates...).

i remember, that article was very strange- there was stated that it would be possible to make a divorce.... but if such missed person will "ressurect", this couple must get married again!.

thomyorke

-So, if my husband went missing, and after seven years I remarried, and then my missing hubby showed up.... I'd have to annul my current marriage?-

Yes, that is Society's opinion (from early 1960)...

But i can't find that article((

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A missing husband or wife.

by thomyorke in

do you remember, in which "reader's question" was an article about cases, when a husband officially declared as a missing?.

(probably he is dead or captured by somali pirates...).

i remember, that article was very strange- there was stated that it would be possible to make a divorce.... but if such missed person will "ressurect", this couple must get married again!.

thomyorke

Do you remember, in which "Reader's question" was an article about cases, when a husband officially declared as a missing?

(Probably he is dead or captured by Somali pirates...)

I remember, that article was very strange- there was stated that it would be possible to make a divorce...

But if such missed person will "ressurect", this couple must get married again!

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Please help me with this "poetry" - my english are very poor!

by thomyorke in

my colleague take a part in some contest of stories.. she wrote a silly story about her and her best friend (girlfriend?)...)).

it will goes to worldwide 'experts'...who dont speak english very well, cause they are from south korea.. .

if you can fix and adjust it into a beautiful english, i'll be happy!!!.

thomyorke

Thanks a lot!

You did a very good job)

I'll be a hero in her eyes))

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Please help me with this "poetry" - my english are very poor!

by thomyorke in

my colleague take a part in some contest of stories.. she wrote a silly story about her and her best friend (girlfriend?)...)).

it will goes to worldwide 'experts'...who dont speak english very well, cause they are from south korea.. .

if you can fix and adjust it into a beautiful english, i'll be happy!!!.

thomyorke

My colleague take a part in some contest of stories.

She wrote a silly story about her and her best friend (girlfriend?)...))

It will goes to worldwide 'experts'...Who dont speak english very well, cause they are from South Korea.

Anyway... There is a story.

If you can fix and adjust it into a beautiful english, i'll be happy!!!

(Don't mind she is crazy... She is just a lonely 34-year old woman, owner of a two dogs...)

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"Friends can not be much. This is purely my personal opinion.

But I know some who can share such point of view.

After all, we both have just one heart, and we can not tear it up into several "friends".

My heart is full, friendly, and always belongs to Irina.

My closest friend, the only one.

Externally, we do not too similar. And this is evident.

We had different education, our personal life is different,

as well as work activity.

I would even say that we are on different social levels of society.

But it doesn't bother us at all.

After all, the friendship is no place for stereotypes.

By the way, our friendship are last for 30 years.

It is several months younger Irina

Only 10 years ago, we began to notice that we are very similar in some aspects.

And, laughing, we begin to look more carefully at each other.

And found we are very similar internally.

You could even say that we are "spiritual twins."

We have the same hobby. We are crazy about the reading books.

I mean, we love to read. We can buy a book in any place.

We call each other "book maniac."Together we can go into "binge of a reading."

This interest had made us closer.

We always have something to discuss, and speculate about anything, share our opinion.

We have the same food preferences.

We do not using a diet, and don't like somehow make a prohibition for ourselves.

We doing what we like. We do everything our heart desires.

But, of course, respecting the limits of the law and decency.

Our tastes in music are similar.

We were attracted by the same exhibitions and performances, and we visited it.

Our characters are similar.

We both are well educated, kind, polite and positive in life.

Pessimism "kills" us. We are both moderately sociable.

We avoid some noisy companies, and prefer a quiet and peaceful dialogue with the book.

We think we a strong persons, but, in practice, we could get hurt by somebody

We do not like rudeness and arrogance. Most often we could not make a revenge.

We are not greedy, but parsimonious. We understand the humor, but not all.

We are not indifferent, and can sympathize, but rarely can provide real help.

We love to give gifts while expecting to recieve something sweet in return.

We have shown perseverance to achieve the goals

But sometimes, we become stubborn, like a rams, capricious just like children,

and too selfish in our intentions.

We rarely recognize and admit our mistakes,

even more rarely asking for forgiveness and forgive people.

Sometimes it can be difficult together.

It's just a temporary difficulties, but we can overcome it, easy or not.

Our friendship has been tested by time.

And not only by a time. We've been through a lot, for thirty years, and pricks of jealousy,

misunderstanding and hours of alienation, minutes of envy, seconds of embarrassment,

milliseconds of shame, moments of pride for each other,

bitter quarrels and tears of joy of reconciliation.

And fate has kept us from betrayal.

Irina is kind of person with whom is nice to remain silent

Sometimes we don't need any words to understand each other.

Just looked in friend's eyes and everything becomes clear.

Sometimes, I get the feeling that we share one pair of eyes for our sight,

hearing the world by one pair of ears, and having one heart to feel and understand.

Very often I am thankful to our destiny for giving me a chance to find out

and understand what friendship is, what it means to be a friend.

And I hope that our friendship will leave this world only with us."

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Jehovah's Witness Radio/TV Station?

by ilikecheese in

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friends

in terms of christian ministries, radio and tv stations/shows are such an effective tool.

i've worked in christian media, and i can see the impact that it has on people.

if you have a pastor who knows their stuff, is crazy passionate about it, and is a little less loony and more empathetic, they can really get a lot of people interested.

thomyorke

In the past they had their own WBBR radiostation...

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I need your advise))

by thomyorke in

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friends

me and my friends have already organized "association of former jehovahs witnesses.".

we want to stand for rights of ex-jw's, and those who are still suffer in organization and almost blind.. now we make some interviews on a television, take part in some lectures about how dangerous jw could be, keep in touch with "worldly" relatives, who want to save their family members.... in russia we still dont have a kind of psychological help, hotline or office.

we planning to establish this.

thomyorke

Me and my friends have already organized "Association of former Jehovahs Witnesses."

We want to stand for rights of ex-JW's, and those who are still suffer in Organization and almost blind.. Now we make some interviews on a television, take part in some lectures about how dangerous JW could be, keep in touch with "worldly" relatives, who want to save their family members...

In Russia we still dont have a kind of psychological help, hotline or office. We planning to establish this. But we dont have any expirience in this way.

Do you know some organizations, who already can provide such a help to ex-JW? And who are they- did they invite people to a new religion?

(As for me, i am not participate in any religion... But for those who overtroubled still want to be a sheep... we can show them their flock: some of us became a members of tradional christianity, and they can drive them into that)

It will be very interesting for me to hear from you about it!

What kind of support such group can provide? Step by step...

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Hi, everybody!

by thomyorke in

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friends

i am from russia, and i've ben a jw for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend.i've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of kingdom halls!

(because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.

;)i still have very good memories about that period...nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months.in that time i 've reed a "crisis of concience" and "in search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom,she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts.but i was too naive!i decided to comeback into organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends.and remain there as a "double agent" or a spy))i had to pass through all the way to be reinstated...when i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again,for my "reabilitation".

thomyorke

Thanks for your understanding and loving-kindness!

I am already active writer on a russian apostate forum. My favorite hobby there is creating some funny pictures about WTBTS)) And i find it's very sad, that it's uneasy to attach some video or pic. here((

In last november in our forum we had a small revolution! Actually, some hardly brain-damaged ex-JW was trying to steal all forum. They think, that they only knew how to provide spiritual food help to ex-JW's. I can call them 'a JW without Slave' or something like that. They still have a skype-meetings twice on week...

And because of it they try to ban all blasphemers, orthodox missioneres, atheists, pagans, and other clowns like me.

Of course, it doesn't work. Cause 70% of forum members, including administration, were not agree with this genocide.

Some smart guy make a backup of that forum, and we start a new life on a clone forum. There we have a lot of humour, open-minded people, and many varieties of points of view!

But our " neighbors" finally get a very boring, "spiritually clean", but almost empty site...

That is why i dont want to set a new religion)))

Who am i to teach people how to live?

I only can destroy their faith, and i have almost nothing to give them instead of it

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Hi, everybody!

by thomyorke in

jw
friends

i am from russia, and i've ben a jw for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend.i've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of kingdom halls!

(because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.

;)i still have very good memories about that period...nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months.in that time i 've reed a "crisis of concience" and "in search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom,she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts.but i was too naive!i decided to comeback into organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends.and remain there as a "double agent" or a spy))i had to pass through all the way to be reinstated...when i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again,for my "reabilitation".

thomyorke

To: Cirkeline.

You understood right about Radiohead)

I suppose, that my misical addictions, like many russian rock bands, helped me to keep my mind alive and escape from JW!
(Cause most of rock texts are thought-provoking.) Also reading a books of Toove Janson. Could you imagine: i knew some JW parents, who forbid their children to reed a tale about Carlsson, because he stealing some stuff, lying and cheating often)) Happily, my parents wasn't such fanatic))

Scandinavia- sounds good!

I've ben only in Sweden, and now it is one jf my favorite countries! But i am dreaming to visit Norway... I think it is most beautyful place EVER!

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Hi, everybody!

by thomyorke in

jw
friends

i am from russia, and i've ben a jw for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend.i've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of kingdom halls!

(because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.

;)i still have very good memories about that period...nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months.in that time i 've reed a "crisis of concience" and "in search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom,she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts.but i was too naive!i decided to comeback into organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends.and remain there as a "double agent" or a spy))i had to pass through all the way to be reinstated...when i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again,for my "reabilitation".

thomyorke

-I've read about the ban on JW's in Russia. How bad was the ban? Did it affect you personally?-

-I was born in 1985, and when my family start to visit JW meetings (in 1990), it was still under ban. I remember it, when i was just 5,

the meetings was far away from city, on a meadow in the forest! A conventions was gathered near lake or a river, and

my mom was baptized on the river! When some brothers from Finland once came to such 'forest meeting', they dont know what to think...

Because 90% of JW songs were differened, than in other countries! It was a hand-written songbooks, and songs was written

somewhere in Siberia camp or prison, where JW was in 1950-1960. (Some of that songs was from baptists and etc.)

But in 1991 the Organization was registred, and it was a start for a very big growth. In 1992 was established a future bethel, it was dedicated in 1997. In 1999 a Convention Hall with a 1500 seats was built...

But now their success and groth are very poor.

In some areas a local JW orhanization are under ban again- but it's not a problem. All the properties such as Kingdom Hall are registred on a Society in Russian Branch. Also 1 year ago Wt and Awake magazines was officialy called an extremist literature! Because of some statements against other religion and position about blood transfusion. But WTB are very smart organization!)) Now they print THE SAME magazines, but it has no label on it! Filling are same, front picture too. But now it is a "nameless brochure!"

Also Society give a strong advice to all JW members to BURN old magazines that they keep home, and collect only few of publications, especially in digital library. But there is no any serious problem with preaching from door to door and meetings.

-I have always wanted to visit Russia. I hear that there are some very beautiful areas, and the people are beautiful too!-

It is!)) I am from Saint-Petersburg, it is not only "Theocraitic capital", but most beautiful city in Russia, that called "Northern Venice."

Also good, that Finland and Estonia are very close from us- we have an opportunity to see how capitalists normal people live.

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Hi, everybody!

by thomyorke in

jw
friends

i am from russia, and i've ben a jw for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend.i've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of kingdom halls!

(because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.

;)i still have very good memories about that period...nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months.in that time i 've reed a "crisis of concience" and "in search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom,she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts.but i was too naive!i decided to comeback into organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends.and remain there as a "double agent" or a spy))i had to pass through all the way to be reinstated...when i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again,for my "reabilitation".

thomyorke

I am from Russia, and i've ben a JW for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.

Last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the Organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend. I've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of Kingdom Halls! (Because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.;) I still have very good memories about that period... Nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months. In that time i 've reed a "Crisis of Concience" and "In search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom, she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts. But i was too naive! I decided to comeback into Organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends. And remain there as a "double agent" or a spy)) I had to pass through all the way to be reinstated... When i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again, for my "reabilitation". My instructor was one elder, who pretend he knows me very well...Of course, he not. He was tactless and very, very dumb. So that was a last drop)) I couldn't continue to stay as a good actor, and i don't want to lie that i believe in all this crap... And i clearly saw, that my girlfriend and my friends are not faithful to our friendship- they were slaves of a Slave... So, 8 months was quite enough- i wrote a nice letter for my friends, in which i explained my point of view, and i send it to all my JW-contact list in social network... Because i want them to know this information directly from me, not from stupid JW rumours... And in same evening i bring my disclamation letter to our letters...with the same letter (even more cool!), that was written by my mom. It was happened 3 years ago)) Now i am happy to "simplify my life" by a living as a normal person!!! I not belong to any religion, i respect some of them, especially buddhists and hindu. So... it will be very interesting for me to associate with some of you- cause i've never seen any english-speaking apostates! (As you can guess, all of people from States, Canada and U.K., that i have seen- was a very zealous pioneers!!!)