Posts by okage

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Im a non JW and i'm interested in a JW

by littlebigtown123 in

i'm interested in this girl and shes a jw.

i went to the meetings and i was bored out of my mind.

i can see how the religion is very appealing to people.

okage

the first time i went to church was for an apostolic girl. i wasnt in class as i had already finished school. but she was a coworker. other than that little difference i lived the story you described.

it started out being a means to get closer to her but to do that means knowing what she knows in the way she knows it.

the apostolic religion believes in chanting and speaking in tongues. they start and end each service with loud music and shouting and overly emotional outbursts. i couldnt go to one service without half of the congregation in tears.

it got to the point where i thought something is wrong with me because i couldnt show that level of emotion to god.

the thing is that in high control groups and cults the doctrine is designed to corrupt. studying the way she studies will make you feel the way about the cult doctrine the way she feels but if you dont believe it you will be at war with yourself.

i became a well versed agnostic because i couldnt believe like her.

and you will eventually find out she is a horrible person because of the group and you will never get the attention from her or the privacy you hope for because her time is designed to be organization property.

she wont be worth it and you will feel like your identity needs to be questioned from the toes to the scalp.

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Jehovah`s Witnesses have always declared themselves as fearless proclaimers of Gods truths .....Then why....?

by smiddy in

then why are they so silent , in comparison with the roman catholic church of christendom , who they have criticised time and time again in their 100+ years of existance , their is very little, if nothing at all about the other two faiths with a common background .

namely islam and it`s various sects , and judaism , with it`s various sects .. how often, if at all, has the watchtower done an expose of islam, and it`s many sects , using the quran/bible proving the prophet mohammed is a false prophet .could it be they are afraid of the backlash it would unleash ?

how fearless are they really ?.

okage

Sheep in wolf's clothing. They claim to be fearless, but good luck getting an Elder or higher to climb out of the dank hole that is the WTS for a public debate.

They claim to be the only door-to-door worldwide preachers. The Krishnas go to airports and the Mormons have been door knocking longer and more effectively than the JWs.

They claim to have cut themselves off from Satan's world completely, yet they use worldly technology on a daily basis, receive benefits from Caesar's government, and consume the fruits of the work of the wicked from waking to sleeping. The Amish have cut themselves off from Satan's world better and longer than any JW in history.

So I pay no mind to the legitimacy of their boasts.

Holidays with the Catholic Church and the WTS

by okage in

might someone explain to me the difference between the catholic church using "pagan" holidays and their tradition as a means to honor god and the wts intentionally scheduling meetings and service during modern holidays?.

isn't it the exact same thing?

to make sure followers are worshipping their god instead of someone else's?.

okage

Might someone explain to me the difference between the Catholic Church using "pagan" holidays and their tradition as a means to honor God AND the WTS intentionally scheduling meetings and service during modern holidays?

Isn't it the exact same thing? To make sure followers are worshipping their God instead of someone else's?

In my opinion, the Catholic Church is more honorable in their actions because they've always acknowledged what they did and why. But ultimately, isn't it the exact same thing?

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The Very Latest Candace Conti vs. The Watchtower News

by God_Delusion in

we all saw this coming - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/latest-candace-conti-news/.

okage

maybe its because im a bastard at heart but i think i see political manuevering hidden under their legal motions.

candace made the public claim that it wasnt about the money. the society wasnt ordered to change their policy or to adhere to a supplemental policy.

they are going to spend years lowering the figure for one of two outcomes. its already been established on two threads that this is chump change to the wts.

outcome 1 they lower the price of the award and candace agrees until its not even worth having.

outcome 2 they try to lower it and candace disagrees. if you made countless billions would 17 million be alot to prove to your followers that this case was by a greedy apostate who wanted money...

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Detail SIMILARITIES between JWs and Mormons

by Black Man in

jw
friends

in some of my cursory readings about mormons, they seem to be as cultish as jws, but i don't know as much about them.

what are some of the similarities you see in them and jws?.

okage

Both share the impossible belief God set up headquarters in America. Both are figureheaded by humans claiming to be channels of God, the JWs have their Governing Body while the LDS have their interchangeable prophet.

Neither believed black people were equivalents to white people until long after the Civil Rights movement, and then claimed that their change of stance was ordained through God, not through pressure from social progression. Most Witnesses deny the WTS ever held a negative view toward black people.

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How to talk to an Elder (Need help ASAP)

by okage in

jw
friends

i never was a jehovahs witness.

its been stated.

so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.

okage

my wife is ready to leave. she picked the city we are moving to. she printed out the paperwork i needed to show her mother i am not playing around. my wife has been saying for months she is ready to move.

again i said i came here because she was raised to be insecure away from her mother. was.

in a thread asking for information on contacting an elder i felt no obligation to fill in every private detail of my life. i asked a question. i gave a motive. that was all i felt necessary.

apparently i needed to tell my whole story to a bunch of random strangers on the pain of being insulted for having an insecure wife. hearing that im apparently lazy and have no money. that i should or will split from my wife.

god. i would hate to see how some of you handle rape victims. some of you show concern and make no assumptions and i appreciate that. but others are insensitive and feel this an opportunity to insult me based on limited claims.

if you feel something is off then ask questions. dont make assumptions. i saw how some of you handled the tylinbrando thread and it should have cued me in to how something considerably more mild would be scrutinized.

cagefighter can go to hell for all he ran his mouth about. ms jones you are awesome but you need to ask questions before feeling comfortable enough to criticize a stranger about his relationship. new chapter thumbs up. the rest of you reading this know which category you fall under.

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How to talk to an Elder (Need help ASAP)

by okage in

jw
friends

i never was a jehovahs witness.

its been stated.

so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.

okage

im sorry but cagefighter seems to be making assumption after assumption about me.

when did i indicate my employment status. im employed. i even recall stating me and my wife got the mothers mortgage caught up.

i at no point stated i was having financial difficulties. i am doing pretty well and i pay my way. we are only here because my wife was insecure about being away from her mother. apparently my name has to be cagefighter if i want to piss on my wifes feelings and disregard her insecurities as insignificant.

her mother was teetering on a defaulted mortgage. she was five months behind and broke all the time. now she is caught up with money in her account thanks to me and my wife. we arent poor. im not here because i want to be. me and my wife are planning on moving back to new york in march. ive posted that on this site before.

but cagefighter is too busy knocking his head on ceilings from jumping to conclusions about me. i didnt come on here whining about how to stay living with her. i came on here asking how to get back at her. i have my life handled pretty well. but no one gets to cost me my hard earned money.

so please cagefighter stay the hell out of my threads if you dont know how to read. twice you have insulted the strength of my marriage and multiple times you have insulted me. the next time has me running to a mod about you because your attacks are misguided and unwarranted.

ive done nothing to you and you have taken it upon yourself to insult me and belittle my character with information that came from your own twisted mind.

once again you get no more chances. read. dont assume. comment. anything more and i will petition heavily to have one of the site runners confer with you.

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How to talk to an Elder (Need help ASAP)

by okage in

jw
friends

i never was a jehovahs witness.

its been stated.

so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.

okage

thank you everyone. i just want to clear up some things. my wife isnt a jw and never was. her siblings dont live under the same roof as the mother. i only live in the house because my wife was brought up to think she would be an awful human being if she strayed from the house. after we put all our money into getting this house caught up on the mortgage the mother started with the insults and backing out of financial agreements after we paid our end.

bringing the elders in would be an effort to make them staand by last years story in the watchtower where the guy was disfellowshipped and talked about how great it was that his family left him without anyone. we all remember that article because of the threat at the end...

remember that when you decide to violate gods decree...or something like that.

i already have my plan to ruin the mother. i am going to get her residency removed. by the time she comes back she wont have this house or her car. i want to make sure she loses contact with her family but the snag there is many of you pointing out that the society wont care because i am a non witness.

it might be mean but even if i downplayed the stories of the way she treated my wife you would understand. i dont usually have to include how she treats me because she is that awful to her daughter.

guess i will have to find out another route.

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How to talk to an Elder (Need help ASAP)

by okage in

jw
friends

i never was a jehovahs witness.

its been stated.

so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.

okage

thank you nc. i am prepared for them to see me as a shady worldly monster. my hope for the altar and dreamcatcher is that it will show she is currently unrepentant and practicing pagan rituals and that her kids in good standing who dont live with her are associating with the watchtowers fictitious antichrist.

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How to talk to an Elder (Need help ASAP)

by okage in

jw
friends

i never was a jehovahs witness.

its been stated.

so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.

okage

i never was a jehovahs witness. its been stated. so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law...

i have no interest in being a witness. she is disfellowshipped for the last four years. but she is trying to get me evicted for nothing. i am not a witness so i am never good enough for her daughter. this is what she told me. i pay my way but she keeps insulting me. she insults her daughter and has gone back on a half dozen financial arrangements with my wife in the last three weeks.

her son and other daughter stand by her even though they are in good standing with the congregation. i have said maybe three sentences to the siblings and a single conversation with the mother in five years. so if i am going out i will be taking them down with me.

i have pictures of a party held at my sister in laws house. she and a few other witnesses are shown clearly associating with the disfellowshipped mother. i also want to invite them to the house to see the dream catcher in the window of the mothers room as well as the altar to a saint in her closet.

i am aware of the snitches in ditches mentality of many of you so if i can please get some assistance in the matter itd be appreciated.

essentially i just want to know how to contact an elder or arrange a meeting with an elder.