Posts by JWOP

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So...why is taking blood essentially viewed as unforgivable by the WT?

by sd-7 in

been hearing about this 'grey's anatomy' episode, and while i didn't see it, it brought up a question i wanted to throw out there, albeit a long-winded one, as is my usual nature.. the fact that people would rather die than take blood, as if...if they take it, they're doomed for sure to not make the new system--it doesn't make sense to me.

people both in the organization and the bible stories are forgiven for heinous crimes, murder, adultery, child sacrifice, everything up to and including denying jesus altogether.

(let's not forget child molestation and rape, apparently...) so why does it seem like this one act is presented to jws as one that's never to be forgiven?.

JWOP

The Watchtower Society is a product of Satan, and the blood teaching is a great way to get human sacrifices.

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The Lion Will Eat Straw Like An Ox In The New System

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm3sqb7pgdm.

the wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, and dust will be the serpent's food.

they will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain," says the lord..

JWOP

Seriously people! I WAS ONLY JOKING ABOUT THE WHOLE GRASS-IS-STRAW THING!

Sorta kinda satirizing Watchtower-think....

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What did I miss? New twist on a very old song, SHUNNING?

by freeflyingfaerie in

is there new info coming out in june watchtower about how to treat families?.

JWOP

I think it's funny that, if an active JW falls on hard times then they say the Devil is targeting him, but if a DF'd one falls on hard times, it's because he no longer has blessings from Jehovah. It's stupid.

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Why Does The Watchtower Dis-fellowshiping For Smoking and Not Gluttony and Alcoholism?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

health care studies are showing obese body weight index is worse than smoking "death sticks", so how is the tower going to address their growing problem of overweight elders and elderettes?

if a organization is able to disfellowship a member for smoking, why not do the same with other vices and crutches their people use to hide stress, emotional disorders and depression?

employers are asking for a bmi test a their potential employees to create a diet to get healthy.

JWOP

Parakeet --

According to the Shepherd the Flock book (p.67, para.19), Gluttony is defined in this way:

"A glutton routinely shows a lack of restraint, even gorging himself on food to the point of feeling very uncomfortable or becoming sick. Gluttony is determined, not by size, but by his attitude towards food."

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So, if friends or family ask you why you were researching JW history...

by leaving_quietly in

today's wt study (w13 2/15 p.12 par.

"we benefit from balanced consideration of the history of jehovah's organization, even as the people of israel benefited from reflecting on how god delivered them from egyptian bondage.".

and the last sentence in the same paragraph:.

JWOP

I find it interesting that the Proclaimers book doesn't appear in their official online library.

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This weeks WT study

by turtleturtle in

do you appreciate our spiritual heritage?.

para.

16. if a person clings to false doctrines, such as the trinity and the immortality of the soul, he cannot benefit from the ransom.

JWOP

The Bible says that all who believe in Jesus Christ will be saved. It says nothing about which teachings to believe in!

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Advice from a 2008 watchtower

by Kaltas1 in

jw
friends

"the congregation elders can certainly offer loving aid and encouragement.

(isa.

32:1, 2) but it is wise to have realistic expectations.

JWOP

"the guidance of God's word is certainly demanding...."

Um, didn't Jesus say that His yoke was light??????

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Rebuttals:"Wait on Jehovah"

by Emery in

ok i think most of you at some point have come across the apologetic saying "wait on jehovah" from jws whenever an injustice occurs in the organization.

many have also used this expression to abandon evidence against the "truth".

this has easily become one of my biggest pet peeves now since speaking to others about ttatt.

JWOP

Oh, but I DID "Wait On Jehovah"...... and WOW! Did He EVER show me the REAL Truth! (and the WT didn't happen to like THAT truth, LOL!)

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The Lion Will Eat Straw Like An Ox In The New System

by frankiespeakin in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm3sqb7pgdm.

the wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, and dust will be the serpent's food.

they will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain," says the lord..

JWOP

I wonder about the translation of this stuff.

I've seen my own pet cats eat grass (but NOT as a primary food source).
Lions are also cats.
Bovine animals, such as oxen, also eat grass.

And straw is a type of grass.

So......

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Why Does The Watchtower Dis-fellowshiping For Smoking and Not Gluttony and Alcoholism?

by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

health care studies are showing obese body weight index is worse than smoking "death sticks", so how is the tower going to address their growing problem of overweight elders and elderettes?

if a organization is able to disfellowship a member for smoking, why not do the same with other vices and crutches their people use to hide stress, emotional disorders and depression?

employers are asking for a bmi test a their potential employees to create a diet to get healthy.

JWOP

According to the Elders' manual "Shepherd the Flock of God", members CAN be disfellowshipped for gluttony and alcoholism. The catch? If you eat a bit of food or drink a sip of beer, that is considered "moderation". HOWEVER, if you take a single suck of smoke, that'll damn you.

In other words, general intake of food or alcohol is acceptable. According to the Elders's manual, gluttony is NOT to be judged by a person's size, so mere observation of weight means nothing. And intake of alcohol is okay if it isn't to excess.

There are no such parameters for tobacco: If you have ONE single "dose" of tobacco, you are ruined..

That is the difference.