Posts by WinstonSmith

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Small Victories!

by emperorslaundrist in

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my husband's cult personality has relaxed since he's been seeing me go out in service and underline my watchtower, so yesterday it felt right to nudge him just a little more.

"you know, i normally love the watchtower articles but the one i'm studying for tomorrow is just crazy.

i'm beginning to think that there's a narcissist somewhere in the writing department.

WinstonSmith

Hey there EmperorsLaundrist, what a great post, full of good news!

This method of biding your time, slipping in some thought provoking questions, then leaving it alone for a while is exactly how I got Mrs Smith to wake up. Keep up the great work because you never know what affect it is having. Unbeknownst to me in the period where I was biding my time, Mrs Smith was researching what I had said to, out of love and concern, pull me back on the JW course. When she found out that what I was saying (transplants, 144,000 etc) was correct, the cracks began to appear. Now we are working side by side to slink our way out and hopefully help some friends and family on the way.

Hang in there, stick to it, and let patience be your master. This is a battle that will be won in inches. We're all cheering for you :-)

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Wow, have really been enjoying not going to meetings the last week or so. We told everyone we were going on holidays, so they won't be expecting to see us. It has been nice having some time just for the two of us. The weather has been good too, and many a beer has been consumed.

We are about to head out soon to spend the afternoon with our friend Sister T. This is the one that recently said to us that she is convinced that the WTS has been infiltrated by Satan and is corrupting it and that soon Jehovah will step in and clean it out. She is still sticking to the 'there has to be an organisation' thing so she is not completely 'there' yet. Needless to say we will be quietly planting seeds and drawing her out all afternoon.

Watch this space...

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Will the 'Make Good Use of Our Official Website' discussion backfire?

by jw07 in

good day everyone,.

i'm a born in jehovah's hostage, and am still a hostage until i can wake my family up (wishful thinking i know).

i'll formally introduce myself later.. for now i have some burning concerns about the service meeting part for the week of december 24, 2012.

WinstonSmith

Welcome JW07, you have started your life at JWN with a great thread topic. I look forward to getting to know you!

With the internet and the WTS, that story of the scorpion that rides on the back of the dog to cross the river comes to mind. The scorpion ends up stinging the dog and says "I can't help it, that's what I do." The internet will dent the WTS in a big way, either by stopping people from getting involved (because they do some research) or by assisting those inside who have doubts and decide to 'just have a look'.

I think pushing the website in the ministry will backfire somewhat. If they think that 'worldly' people who have no fear of the authority of the GB won't check out the other sites that come up in a Google search, then this proves how completely out of touch with the real world they are. When I am looking for somewhere to take Mrs Smith out for dinner, I'll check out the restaurants reputation online. Google the name, and after three or so bad reviews, I'm looking for someplace else. If the GB think they can stop the general public from doing the same thing, they are idiots.

They are one lone website amongst millions and millions of others. Good luck with that strategy guys.

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

So tempted to post a reference to that WT article that says the origin of the practice doesn't matter, what matters is how people view the practice today.

RESIST WINSTON! RESIST!

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The New Diary of Winston Smith

by WinstonSmith in

we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

WinstonSmith

Ugh, I know they think they are doing God's work and all, but sheesh, they can't give it a rest for one day can they? A young bro in our congregation, baptised for just over a year just posted on Facebook a copy and paste from an encyclopedia about the pagan roots of Christmas. Followed with a "why would you want anything to do with that?"

The first comment is from someone who I'm guessing is a non-witness friend replied with a "Yeah but its just a fun day to get together with family" to which bro says "Yes, a day based on paganism."

Behold, the insensitive reasoning of JWs. Can't leave things alone for one day. Gotta stir the pot!

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jw experience from conn. shootings

by ashpman in

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just found this on a post from a fb jw friend of mine:.

experiences following the connecticut shooting:.

from a local witness:.

WinstonSmith

Sherilynn: Doing it out of love, plus marking down time and placements.

Sad, but true.

If someone turned up on my doorstep after a disaster, or an event like Sandy Hook and offered me a leaflet pushing a religous point of view, I would be offended at them capitalising on the situation to peddle their crap.

Totally different story if they turned up empty handed and just said "Hey, we are just checking in to make sure you're handling things. Need someone to talk to? Vent? Get something off your chest? We're here mate."

JWs are so out of touch with reality that they A: can't go out and be nice to people unless given instructions to, and B: can't talk to people unless they have a piece of WT literature in between them as a barrier.

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JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

by FaceTheFacts in

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having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

WinstonSmith

If you think people are trolling you, just don't reply to them. Instead of responding, carry on with the thread topic. At this rate you'll be needing to email the mods again to increase your post limit.

Third time: I haven't read the book, so, per your opening post, please fill in us in on your notes and observations.

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JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

by FaceTheFacts in

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having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

WinstonSmith

Hey Recovery/StillRecovery/OlinMoyle/Ethos/FaceTheFacts,

Within a few posts you have revealed yourself. The name changes, but the modus operandi remains constant.

Let's get the thread back on topic. History tells us that your previous incarnations have difficulty with that. As I said earlier, I haven't read the book, so please enlighten us with your 'notes, observations, and comprehensive review' of The Gentile Times Reconsidered. We are already on page two of the thread and I see nary a mention of the subject of your opening post.

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JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

by FaceTheFacts in

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having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

WinstonSmith

WMF I tend to agree. As I mentioned in FTFs intro thread, my radar is activated. The syntax and modus operandi have my spidey senses tingling.

He'll no doubt swing in with ad hominem 'I start a thread and all you do is attack me' presently.

FTF I haven't read the book, have been trying to obtain a copy. Please enlighten us with your thoughts and comments. I'd love to learn more.

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So.....hi!

by FaceTheFacts in

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not really good at introductions.

i am an active jw who has my doubts about certain things like the bible as a whole but im slowly but surely wading through them.

just of curiousity: what on earth has happened to this board?

WinstonSmith

Welcome FaceTheFacts,

There are lots of different people from many and varied backgrounds on here. All contribute in some way to the ongoing success of this forum.

Before starting a bunch of threads that you will struggle to keep up with (I see you have started 4 already), why don't you tell us a bit about yourself? We'd love to get to know you.

Recovery/StillRecovery/OlinMoyle/Ethos radar mode activated.