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ufology thinking, of course, changes constantly,but i am reading a current book that is creating something of a stir among the ufo believers.. it is called "the facade' by michael heiser.. the book propounds that there is a supreme creator, yahweh.. yahweh is director of a heavenly "council' comprised of created beings.
spirit creatures,who also have great power,including the power of creation,just not as powerful an ability of creation as yahwehs.. these sprits are (or were) yahwehs department heads and branch managers.. (psalms 89 v 5,psalms 82 v 1,1 kings 22 v19-23,ephesians 6 v 12).
about 6000 years ago there was a great disagreement in the boardroom.. yahweh created physical beings in his own "image".
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i just got an email from my jw-elder-dad (correspondence is rare).
mom & dad will not be attending my grandfather's funeral because it is a military ceremony.
the response is so borg-conceived i must quote some:.
we learned through many personal experiences & the many experiences of others, that upholding Jehovah's Principles always works out for the better
And I've learned through many personal experiences & the experiences of others (especially here at JWD) that after people are relased from a cult the truly regret their silly anti-social behavior while they were in the cult.
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nobody here wants to lived in the new earth aka the coming earthly paradise?
nothing in the bible is symbolic, because saying things that are symbolic in the bible, is like calling jehovah a liar, god would not write something like in the bible, then out of no where, it really means something else... example: 144,000, some people said's that's symbolic, lol yea right.... .
anyway it seems like no one here wants to lived in the new earth, my question is why?
Naeblis irritates me.
(Just kidding... maybe...)
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as the borg hammered us into thinking that anyone who had contact with the dead were in fact speaking to the demons, however, now we know that a lot of their teachings are full of sh*t.. i lost my dad at the start of this year.
a couple of months later i bump into a close friend who has known dad for many years.. this guy was stoked that he was getting married and mentioned how it was a shame dad wasn't around for the wedding.. yesterday i called in to see him and he told me something that had happened to him.. he was talking to his sister, who lives in another town, and she is active in some spiritual group.
she said she had never met jack, my dad, but that she has been talking to him and that he had a message he wanted given to this friend, her brother.. dad wanted him to get out of this relationship fast.. he never took it seriously and carried on as usual.. not long after that, this fiancee of his smashed up his 4x4, was on a restricted drivers licence and spent the money he gave her for his hire purchases.. so, his truck is wrecked, he can't claim insurance to get it repaired, he still has to pay it off, a lot of his possessions have been repo-ed and that basically he is in sh*t street without a shovel.. do you think it was a message from my dad ??.
I lost a close friend to CF almost one year ago.
She hasn't tried to contact me.
I've been listening. I've been waiting. I've been thinking about her (not in that way, she was my best friend's wife!). She was the nicest person in the world.
If she could send me a sign, she would. If she could send her husband a sign, she would.
Still waiting...
(A____, if you have internet access, wherever you are, respond to this! We all miss your wit, your laugh, your smile, baby, Yeah!)
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i have only suspicions about this, and an elder at the hall over 2 -1/2 years ago tipped me off to this and kind of semi-verified my long held suspicions.
i never did get to elder school or even ms school because i never kissed enough ass, so i can't emphatically prove it myself.. he basically inferred or implied that nearly all the wtb&ts late 20th century problems had something to do with the "great" apostacy (witch hunt) of c.1980.. i have also talked to my brother-in-law about this matter a couple of times and he seems to be of the same bend or thinking.
it's kind of like the borginazational culture that everyone "believes" or it's "known" that the troubles were rooted out when ray franz and friends were booted.. .
Great question, but I can't provide any insight (was never an elder) but I will see if I can arrange an opportunity to ask my long-time elder father if/when I ever see him again!
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i have been meeting-free for a year now, (although i did attend the last memorial mainly out of curiosity).
i have learned enough now, since leaving "the truth" to know that i'm never going back.
but i was wondering how long it takes to get all of the shit out of your head?
It feels like i've gone from one extreme to the other
I hear that! Although recently I feel that I have become addicted to this $*%^@ Discussion Board... it is such a good source of information, I find it hard to disconnect.
I can only imagine that I will feel "normal" if/when my parents & siblings have been released. Until then, I must continue "spreading the truth about "The Truth (TM)".
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i would like to share with you some points.. when reading the wtbs inc. publications one wonders how it is possible to publish.
opinions , ideas , viewpoints , understandings etc .
and present them as ...correct words of truth .. as it was stated, for example in a watchtower article almost 12 years ago :.
Nice research, MacHislopp. When I find the time, I will add some of these to my Quotes web site.
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so i'm in my communications class and i'm listening to all the speeches.
we have 2 christian fundamentalists in the class which was why i chose wicca as my topic.
anyway, the first one gave a speech on how carbon 14 dating is a hoax because the isotope that they measure only has a full life of 50,000 years.
One summary is here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html
Especially the section "Common creationist criticisms of mainstream dating methods"
also here:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/debate-age-of-earth.html
Happy reading!
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question: my friend who is df'd wishes to tell the elders that he won't be applying for re-instatement.
my friend only recently decided he doesn't want back in and isn't really "out" emotionally yet.
do elders really pay attention to df'd ones disappearing?
Unless deemed apostate and dangerous, the elders are required to make an attempt once a year to contact and visit any disfellowshipped ones in their territory.
ooooohhhhhhhhh...... That exmplains why I have (mercifully) never been "contacted"... I must be "dangerous"....
Hey, maybe I should team up with Naeblis, Beans, Big Dave, and other locals and form some sort of "evil crime" syndicate, the type you would see on Batman!
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this is the either the funniest or saddest thing i have ever seen.
paranoia will destroy ya!
enjoy.... --michael.
Actually, you probably don't have to go to the trouble of phoning somebody to get the "tough" answers...
Instead, register as a person from say, Brundi or Camaroon or Micronesia... choose a country that is far enough away that you can invent answers (song sung, etc). and if they question you get angry that "we don't have the same program you have in the US"
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