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From MSN... I may barf any second...

by mkr32208 in

the bible was one of the few books many of the refugees had among their possessions.

on friday, several jehovahs witnesses walked the floor of the astrodome, where thousands of cots were set up, to offer their services.

what "services"... buncha weenies!

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Oh, you terrible, cynical people!!!!

Of *COURSE* the JWs are helping people.

They are delivering God's message that this bad weather was part of *HIS* grand plan for mankind.

People don't need food, water, blankets, cots. What these people need is magazines! They need the hope that can only be found in the well researched, well written, "delightful, correct words of truth" found in the Watchtower Society's publications.

I don't see the Red Cross, or anyone else, explaining to these people that God intended this to happen, and that it will only get worse. Why, just having that knowledge, that only God's Organization can provide, will make the suffering *MUCH* more bearable.

Ok, sorry. Enough of that.

Commence Puking Now

~Quotes, of the "It sounds funny when *I* say it" class

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Watchtower Annual meeting in october

by pElE the King in

jw
friends

i don't know if anyone has had this idea, but since annual meeting in watchtower is their greatest event, after memorial, isn't this a interesting moment for a major ""apostate" act"?

to be honest with you i don't believe that the traditional banners and shout iniciatives, with picketing style would be enough, maybe it would be a time for a more creative act, perhaps we can have p eople with (1) painted faces in a indian warrior way, or even (2) dressed in black as in mourning, or perhaps (3) dressed as a sad lamb or maybe a (4) with governing body or (5) their old wt death presidents masks (like those that people use in globalization protests) things artistically curious that can call attention of the press and that could be a nightmare for some old boys in broklyn and at the same time, with a subtle eyes opener for the new gb members...

what is yours personal ideas about this?

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LMAO at willyloman! ;)

That shouldn't be to hard to manage: leave a trail of donuts leading off away from the "Coffee Table". Each donut with a little sign reading "For Attendants Only".

Also, perhaps a sign which says "Free Coffee and Donuts". I think "Free Donuts" beats "Keep Moving"... but "Royal Flush" beats everything!

~Quotes

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Watchtower Annual meeting in october

by pElE the King in

jw
friends

i don't know if anyone has had this idea, but since annual meeting in watchtower is their greatest event, after memorial, isn't this a interesting moment for a major ""apostate" act"?

to be honest with you i don't believe that the traditional banners and shout iniciatives, with picketing style would be enough, maybe it would be a time for a more creative act, perhaps we can have p eople with (1) painted faces in a indian warrior way, or even (2) dressed in black as in mourning, or perhaps (3) dressed as a sad lamb or maybe a (4) with governing body or (5) their old wt death presidents masks (like those that people use in globalization protests) things artistically curious that can call attention of the press and that could be a nightmare for some old boys in broklyn and at the same time, with a subtle eyes opener for the new gb members...

what is yours personal ideas about this?

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This post prompted an idea:

Since traditional protests, IMO, are largely ineffective and only serve to increase the JWs paranoia and persecution complex, why not do the complete opposite?

Set up a table with donuts and a pot of coffee, and banners that read "We Love You" (i.e. you the individuals, NOT your the Society) or "We Miss You" or "We're Worried about You" or some other nice, non-offensive, confusing message.

If you can get people to stop and have a free coffee, strike up a conversation (shouldn't be too hard, they be wondering who the heck you are and why you are there) and tell them matter of factly that you're a happy former member who wants your (brother/sister/father/mother/children) to speak to you and stop shunning you, or whatever.

This would totally demolish the "apostate stereotype" that only serves to insulate them.

~Quotes, of the "Bet they never saw *THAT* coming!" class
Edit to add: we could call the idea "Coffee Table"

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Nambla article...

by stillconcerned in

i used to have a copy of a nambla newsletter article titled.

"the church: the last, best place for access".

about 'how to' talk your way into a church kid's program in order to have 'relationship' with kids.. i moved offices and can't find it now.. .

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Big Tex, I'm pretty sure G Money was making a reference to a South Park episode, where there were two groups, both named NAMBLA. I'd suspect that he probably already knows about the the pedo group.

BTW, with such a disgusting group as part of the plot, that episode of South Park was hilarious. It proves the old George Carlin point: anything *CAN* be funny; it just depends what the exageration is.

~Quotes, of the "In Favour of Chemical Castration" class

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OMG!!! YOU MUST READ THIS!!!! My appeal letter worked!!!

by kwintestal in

jw
friends

for those not up-to-date on my situation ... .

i was disfellowshipped and i posted about it here.. i wrote an appeal letter, and wrote about it here.

so, i just got home from a weeks vacation, i was home for 3 hours.

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Cygnus said:
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"EI:ESE", "EF:ESY", and "SCH:SSH" (code names on Society letters identifying the writer).
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You do realize that this is fairly standard business practice at large corporations? The initials of the individual who authored the letter preced the colon; the initials of the typist... sorry, "keyboard entry person" follow the colon.

~Quotes, of the "Full Colon" class

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WTBTS: Do Not Mark Donations For Relief Efforts - Mark World Wide Work

by Honesty in

i have just talked with the wtbts service department at 718-560-5000.. you can contribute for hurricane katrina relief efforts through your local kingdom hall and put your donation in the contribution box marked for the world wide work.

you may also send donations directly to the branch office... to the brooklyn address.

donations should be marked for the world wide work and not specificically reserved for relief efforts.

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Looks like they haven't changed their tune. There was a similar response last year re: Tsunami Victims Relief. I have a audio recording and transcript of the phone call to Bethel: http://quotes.watchtower.ca/tsunami_relief.htm. This page also has a scan of and the text from *** Our Kingdom Ministry, January 2005 For Canada km-E 1/05 Vol. 48, No. 1, p.7 ***.

In case you don't have time to check it out, let me summarize:

Send us money. No, we don't have a seperate account set up, but send us money anyway. No, we don't really have a plan, but send us money anyway. No, we don't have any planes loaded and ready to go; in fact we don't have any planes at all [except for that executive jet in alaska] but send us money! No, as far as we know, no JWs were hurt/killed, but send us money. No, no kingdom halls were damaged, but send us money. We will use the money very carefully for... um... er... what were you asking about again? Oh yeah, Tsunami Relief, right. Send money. And make sure you spell our company name correctly, or else you're just wasting our time. We don't like wasting time when we collect money for... um.... er... whatever you said you wanted us to use it for.

~Quotes, of the "They Are *NOT* a Charity" class

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Simpsons, "Thank God It's Doomsday"

by Fatfreek in

check out my favorite family, the simpsons, and its recent episode, "thank god it's doomsday".

i couldnt help but think that one scene illustrates how the gb arrives at their many date predictions over the years.. homer, at the kitchen table reading studiously: "hmmm.

marge: "homey, you havent touched your second dinner tonight -- and [noting the kitchen table covered with thick reference books] youre reading books.

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I suspect that thousands of JWs Simpsons fans, watching that show, completely missed the fact that the joke was at their expense, and only recognized other doomsday cults as the butt of the joke.

I also suspect that a few JWs did recognize that the joke was at their expense, and thougth to themselves: "Oh no, PERSEUCTION!!! The time must be really, REALLY short now!!!"

~Quotes, of the "Life of Debauchery Followed by Quick Death-Bed Repentance" class

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The watchtower and hitler?

by crankytoe in

i remember reading somewhere that jehovah'w witnesses tried to somehow make friends with hitler during the holocaust, .

is this true?

cause this past weekend, my biblestudy conductor brought this elder over who kept talking about "our brave brothers who lost their lives in the holocaust" as part of his faith without works/go to the kh speech.

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An entire book has been written on this topic: Jehovah's Witnesses & the Third Reich by James Penton (also the author of the landmark Apocalypse Delayed).

Order it from Amazon or ask your local bookshop to order it.

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Is the bible inspired?

by jwfacts in

i am trying to determine if it can be proved that the bible is inspired, and was wondering if most people here believe it is or is not.. i am writing a document on proof of inspiration, but it has ended up more of an article that shows the bible can not be proven to be inspired.

i will be interested in what people think about it when it is finished.

however i am worried that posting such an article may alienate those on jwd that believe the bible to be gods word.

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Here are several articles dealing with the problems in the bible: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/.

To answer you question, IMO, nope.

~Quotes, of the "telling it the way I see it" class

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Canadian Government doing Business with the Watchtower

by jgnat in

here's a mystery.

i'll have to investigate when i have more time.

the watchtower bible and tract society has received a letter patent from the canadian government.

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Thanks for the note, jgnat.

Interesting that they rec'd their SLP on 08/11/2004, which is well before they sent out the C&D to me. Perhaps they knew, even then, that they were in trouble ("caught with their pants down", as my father likes to say) with respect to their complete lack of ownership and protection of their precious, beloved, Watch Tower corporate name.

Also interesting to see who else rec'd a S.L.P. at the same time: Maharishi World Peace Development Institute 16/11/2004. Must have been "cult special" week at Industry Canada.

This may be just a routine thing. According to this other web site (caveat: Quebec site, where the law is always a lot different than the rest of Canuckistan), a S.L.P. is for the following:

Supplementary Letters Patent

To amend the corporate charter of the non-profit legal person (Part III of the Companies Act), you have to apply for supplementary letters patent which will allow you to amend:

* The name;
* Head office;
* Number of directors;
* Immovable assets or revenue arising from;
* Powers and purpose;
* Other provisions.

~Quotes, of the "supplementary patent leather shoes" class