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Not The Sharpest Tools In The Box.

by Englishman in

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i wonder how the average iq of most jw's would measure up to the average iq of non-witnesses?.

i think that they would rate less than most.

i say this because, having met up with a few still-witnesses recently, they just don't seem to be too prolific in the brain cell department.

radar

When people try to elevate themselves, they usually attempt it at the expense of others.

It's all a facade.

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Please Be Seated

by MoeJoJoJo in

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remember those signs the brothers used to carry around the conventions in the corridors during the sessions?

"quiet please".

"please be seated".

blood policy in the papers

by ballistic in

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this was printed in june 2000 as far as i can make out.

what do you make of it?.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=290588&in_review_text_id=235269.

______________________________________________________________________Would the elder now sit down with the relative and say, "well it's your choice, your conscience?"
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What as changed is:
The official Watchtower Policy now shifts responsibility and possible liable action against them by stating " They do not Dissfellowship those who accept blood"
So, the Watchtower makes itself look benevolent,legal and just to the world (and to most JWS)

Yet we know that a person who as dissassociated themselves from the congregation is viewed in the same light as one who as been dissfellowshiped( possibly worse)

So in answer to your question, the elder probably would not see it as a choice of conscience to be offered because in his eyes the person would be dissassociating himself from Jehovah's organisation consequently losing out on eternal life.

The Watchtower's legal machine is just playing games with people's lives.
The more newspaper articles (like the one you found) the better because hopefully, it will lead to more people (JWs)asking questions of their Watchtower mentors.

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blood policy in the papers

by ballistic in

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this was printed in june 2000 as far as i can make out.

what do you make of it?.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=290588&in_review_text_id=235269.

radar

Ballistic
______________________________________________________________________I could accept a blood transfusion or refuse to hold a blood card and not be disfellowshipped?

______________________________________________________________________
If you listen to the Watchtower Press propaganda machine, then officialy no you would not.

But you know and I know that in the real Watchtower world, there are all sorts of pressures that are not apparent to the world outside, that would punish those JWs that accept blood therepy.

In your father's case, if he is prepared to be viewed within the congregation as having a moments "weakness" as regards Blood transfusion and (appear)to repent for the(faithless) course afterwards, then with all probability no official action would be taken.

The official Watchtower policy is that nothing has changed with regard to the blood issue.
Yet in fact there have been many changes over recent years with regard to their blood policy.

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blood policy in the papers

by ballistic in

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this was printed in june 2000 as far as i can make out.

what do you make of it?.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/dynamic/news/top_story.html?in_review_id=290588&in_review_text_id=235269.

radar

Ballistic

I know Geoff Unwin quite well.

He's been involved in various newspaper articles, including the Guardian Newspaper report on the Blood issue last year.

The article is written in such a way as to "Stir up" the (great)crowd.
Good to see that he is still trying to raise public awareness on these issues.

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New slick WTS propaganda video

by Lee Elder in

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i just finished watching the wts new video - "transfusion alternative health care".

this is very sophisticated propaganda and a real piece of work.

the organization is trying to equate "blood conservation therapy" with their own irrational blood policy.

radar

Lee

I have not seen the video, yet Knowing that the Watchtower's main concern is not about the welfare of its members but about Public.Relations, I can imagine how this blood issue is presented on the video.

It will no doubt re-assure all JWs of what a wonderful organisation they belong to, while hiding from them the real truth that they have no real foundation for their blood policy.
It lay in tatters from their own acknowledgemet that blood passes from the mother to her fetus.
"Readers Questions"(June 1st 1990)

This video should be entitled Come to my Parlour said the Spider to the Fly

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JWs using new methods to gather lost sheep

by radar in

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radar

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leave me alooone.....PLEASE!!!!

by Angst in

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i was born and raised a witness.

baptized at 14. pioneered after high school and was accepted to bethel when i was 19. got booted from bethel on my 21st b-day because someone exposed me for underage drinking prior to my 21st b-day.

after i left bethel, nothing was ever the same, and my eyes began to be opened and i started seeing more clearly.

radar

Angst

I presume you are still technically a JW and still wish to be so?

I believe honesty is the best policy, with relationships.

Quantify your thouhgts by writing down the reasons why you do not want to return and then approach your mom about the subject.

By you approaching your mom rather than letting her bring the subject up, lets her know that you are serious about your decision.

Treat people as individuals, do not label them otherwise you may become the evil you seek to destroy

Radar

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A question before bedtime

by radar in

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is logic the way to god?.

if not, then is the way illogical?.

bible says that the truth about the torture stake is foolishness to those who are going to perish.. but is not childlike acceptance of religious ideas dangerous?.

radar

Hi Francois

The point I was making is, that "Childlike acceptance" is what gets people mixed up in Religious cults such as JWs in the first place.

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A question before bedtime

by radar in

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is logic the way to god?.

if not, then is the way illogical?.

bible says that the truth about the torture stake is foolishness to those who are going to perish.. but is not childlike acceptance of religious ideas dangerous?.

radar

Is logic the way to God?

If not, then is the way illogical?

Bible says that the truth about the torture stake is foolishness to those who are going to perish.
But is not childlike acceptance of religious ideas dangerous?

If the way to God is hidden from the wise and intellectual ones then
why do some say that JWs have not found the way?