Posts by apostatethunder

in another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.

the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .

apostatethunder

Another pernicious practice they have is stroking the ego of idiots.

If you are a sister you will have to deal with ugly, uninteresting guys with nothing to offer, that will treat you with a lot condescendence even when they see you running away from them. It's disturbing.

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How To Prove That The "Truth" Is Founded On Negativity And Hate

by metatron in

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wanna prove to yourself that jws can't let go of negativity and hate?

that it is at the core of their faith?

ask the following question:.

apostatethunder

While most religions and philosophies preach to love your neighbour, Leviticus 27:1-12; 28-29 is quite self-explanatory about how Judaism views "the others". It is by no means the only such text, but the Talmud is even more explicit in case some jew does not understand the point.

The WT philosophy is founded on the basis that they are the "chosen" ones now, the new jews so to speak and the rest of the world is in the hands of Satan the devil so they will unfortunately have to die at Armageddon. Shame they didn't listen when we came to their door with that Awake magazine. It was their choice really.

The Bible and specifically the Old Testament is a manual of supremacy for the "chosen" ones. It is all there in plain sight hence all the efforts to interpret it and confuse things before people can see the obvious. Kind of a Babel Tower effect.

Islam just seems like a re-inerpretation of Christianity but also and most importantly, a powerful rival. For some reason Christianity has encountered a lot of opposition from the begining, and has produced more martyrs than any other faith throughout history. But unexplicably it refuses to name her historical enemy which is presenting itself as the victim, something quite ashtonishing.

Babylon, Egypt, Persia...all gone with the wind, but thankfully a lot of their myths have been passed on to us through the Bible in an adapted version.

"The world should know this fact, that we will remain together." Ahmadinejad. Who could have imagined it? Spain 711 AD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_XAeqtY7Sk

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Embarrassed by Aggressive Apostates

by ShempLives in

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xjw protests & videos.

.. i am disturbed by some of the more aggressive apostates posting videos on youtube,like "a jw memorial to remember" where a drunk man goes to a memorial and downs the whole glass of wine as a sort of protest.

this video and others like it received positive comments from aawa members.

apostatethunder

My theory is that they get nervous when somebody leaves and appears well-balanced, specially if there was no scandalous fornication case involved in their leaving Noah's Ark.

They may be only drones, but as a group they are trained to drive ex-jws to madness. For example: group stalking, impertinent questions, while a number of them start ignoring you can be a very volatile cocktail, specially after you discover TTATT.

Also some of the apostate sites don't look genuine, they look designed to find out exactly what was that opened your eyes or to dissapoint you, specially if you are on the first stages of waking up.

Who knows what they come up with in order to explain the cases of successful apostates who start doing great in life after leaving the spiritual hell. It would be interesting to hear. Who could be a microphone on the wall sometimes!

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Rumor: New light comes from outside marketing consultants

by Londo111 in

this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.

feel free to poke holes.

i have many doubts about this myself.

apostatethunder

That's very dissapointing, you would expect that nowadays a corporation could survive without any external help whatsoever.

There is also a more sinister aspect to all this crap, I remember lots of instances when a brother or sister would mention how an article in the Witchtower or a talk at a convention seemed written specially for them. Of course the implication would be that it was Jehovah's holy spirit not a controlling psychologist.

How far could they potentially go in this enclosed and controlled environment if they set themselves to manipulate somebody for whatever purpose? Only madness knows.

So basically here we have a multi-million corporation scamming people all around the world, and "not" using any external consultants at all and the US Government believes they are Disney.

And if they actually do use external consultants, who are they? Who could they possibly be if you think about it really?

Here is a bold interpretation of Apocalypsis: what if the misterious Babylon the Great, the Biggest Harlot of the Earth was not a religion but an intelligence agency? If that was the case when they finally fall not only the witnesses but the whole world will rejoice greatly.

I am praying it will be very soon. Hallelujah!

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Abrahamism vs Gnosticism in a Nutshell :)

by ProdigalSon in

http://www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/sex-for-salvation-ii%282395055%29.htm.

judaism claims that the way to god is through obeying endless rules allegedly imposed by god.

the great philosopher immanuel kant claimed that judaism wasn't a religion at all, but a mere body of laws.

apostatethunder

By their fruits you will know them.

You do not get drones from an intelligent organization, do you?

Or you do not get people that behave as if they were God from a good philosophy, do you?

Countries are like people, for example in the US we have an elite of people that believe they are gods and that are filling the planet with drones, so it would be very helpful for everyone if they finally realized that THEY are the drones. We keep praying for their enlightment.

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New Article: Jehovah's Witnesses and Chosen Ignorance

by daringhart13 in

would love your feedback.

thanks gang!.

http://darrinhart.hubpages.com/hub/jehovahs-witnesses-and-the-chosen-path-of-ignorance .

apostatethunder

In a way, the WT seems like a big social experiment in cognitive dissonance and the US government is a necessary colaborator.

The occasional whistleblower would play the part of the apostate and you are not supposed to listen to him or maybe you do, so that after a due confrontation the good ones can win once again (as it was in the time of Rutherford when Jesus came down to clean the sanctuary).

Big business keep growing at your expense and literally everything is for sale, but you consider that freedom as you are not aware that you yourself have been sold or bought by anyone.

Conveniently the bad ones are organized in independent cells that have nothing to do with each other as they were all trained in Afghanistan by evil Osama bin Laden who was himself trained by the CIA. That means they are impossible to predict or control so anything that happens it was them even if they look like your harmless neighbour. He was always too quiet now that you think about it.

The war on terror will obviously never end so wave good-bye to your rights and say hello to your barcode.

The media keeps repeating that you are living in the freest society in the world and that other countries hate you for that freedom, but after losing each and every single one of your rights you still don't make yourself uncomfortable questions like: now who will be our next enemies and why?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4tSedUSiUc

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why does the GB exclude the word "grace" from the new world translation?

by freckles12 in

apostatethunder

Grace is a marvellous gift that dignifies the receiver.

Undeserved kindness is a kindness shown to the receiver that he does not deserve and that comes with a small note to remind him of that fact.

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Say Goodbye To Israel

by metatron in

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http://news.yahoo.com/israels-ultra-orthodox-plan-huge-anti-draft-protest-073511447.html.

suppose 10% of your nation were hardcore fanatics who can act as one - and they refuse to serve in the army or get jobs!.

and they are the fastest growing group with a high birthrate....... some of the protest photos of them filling the streets are impressive.. .

apostatethunder

You need to be shameless to speak about a palestinian problem. They seemed to be doing quite well before they were invaded and massacred by the jews when they decided they wanted to grab that piece of land. If the orthodox don't agree with the state of Israel what are they doing living there? Jews are doing really well in most countries of the world, the only ones being prosecuted nowadays are those who dare to speak up for the palestinians.

The gypsies also have a right to exist, how about gathering them all together at your place? Would you have a problem with that?

The creation of Israel wouldn't have been possible without the UK, the only european empire that despite being the most absolutist (the Queen is also the Pope) and medieval in its social structure, managed to avoid all the revolutions that destroyed its rivals last century. Talk about mysteries.

There is no freedom if you are not able to call a spade a spade, and the creation of the State of Israel is a Genocide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGBoGKPZlQE