I think they realized that some witnesses are rebelling in their own little ways: gambling, disrespecting their husbands, smiling at disfellowshipped ones, etc.
It's room for hope though a very small one and they intend to close it.
apostatethunder
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why is the org acting worried?
by Crazyguy inthe latest statistics from the year book seems to indicated that no great increase of leavers, so why is the org seem to be acting like thier worried?
more talks about apostates, more asking for money, more talks about loyalty, etc.
what's up?.
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"Is my life now more meaningful, and am I happier?"
by Julia Orwell inso the question is posed in this week's watchtower study at our former cult's houses of indoctrination.
i should like to answer it, and i should like to hear your answers too.. the question is in two parts, and i shall address each one in turn.. q. is my life more meaningful?.
my life is more meaningful.
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apostatethunder
Is my life now more meaningful and am I happier since I am free from schackles?
What type of question is this?
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They won freedom of speech, while steeling mine!
by BackSlider inso oftin i recall being excited about all the cases that were won in the name of jehovah.
i would talk with my dad and ask him how could it be possible that the supreme court judges haven't become witnesses.
it made no sense to me, that these men and women were not moved by all the wins that the organization was piling up.
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apostatethunder
If JWS ever became a majority, society would become like the movie "I am legend" for the ones that didn't agree with them. Zombies everywhere!
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WT ain't going out of business.
by joe134cd ini've heard this said in other posts, so now i'm going to combine it in one post.. the $28 million awarded to conti is only drop in the bucket for what they are worth.. there would have to be 100 s of successful sex abuse law suites before they would feel it.
quite frankly i don't reckon there would be enough with the right circumstances to have a successful case against wt.
having a dozen or so cases isn't going to break the bank.
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apostatethunder
It seems that in over a century, everybody that had dealings with these scumbags wishes they never had.
They are very sneaky, but they wouldn't be able to keep the business going if the media exposed them for what they really are about.
For some reason that has never happened.
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As far as the Watchtower goes, how should an adulteress be punished?
by I_love_Jeff inshould we use jesus' advice john 8:7 or god's advice .
leviticus 20:10?
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apostatethunder
I remember pondering what "BS Translation" stood for. Of course I didn't dare to joke about it at the time.
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As far as the Watchtower goes, how should an adulteress be punished?
by I_love_Jeff inshould we use jesus' advice john 8:7 or god's advice .
leviticus 20:10?
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apostatethunder
We all know the WT prefers the Old Testament ways, figuratively stoning her.
This actually reminds me of three episodes in the Old Testament which they don't seem to have a conflict with, as they have never been explained properly at the meetings:
1. When Samson went to a prostitute.
2. When Josua's two spies spend the night in the house of a prostitute.
And 3. When Judah wanted to stone Tamar after leaving her pregnant believing she was a prostitute.
They seem to be more in tune with the Old Testament's spirit, where apparently men didn't need to be free from sin to the same extent as women for some strange reason.
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So what types of people actually flourish under the JW regime?
by Julia Orwell ini sure as eggs know which types don't:.
creative types: to do well at a creative industry one must dedicate a lot of time to developing one's talent, and as a jw one simply doesn't have time.
since writing a story or painting a picture doesn't contribute in any way to prestudy, meetings or fs results it's considered useless anyway.
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apostatethunder
The same type of people that flourished under the soviet regime: sociopaths.
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JW Women Self-0Loathing - Get a Back Bone
by Band on the Run inan earlier thread about pants suits for women led me on this tangent.
women make up the majorty of witnesses.
they cannot be suppressed without their acquiescene.
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apostatethunder
I think being a witless involves having not much of a back bone, whether you are male or female. That being said, women do have a lower status in the organization, but that is mostly nominally, as in the practice many of them wear the trousers.
Most of them are busybodies and very envious of each other. When you go in the ministry very few are capable of any subject of conversation that does not involve gossiping about someone else's business. I suspect that comes from their being unhappy and frustrated with their own lives, and because the cult does not promote genuine good qualities in people. Also they live in a very small world, and gossipers make very good informants anyway.
I would also say the majority of them have experienced something like this at some point, which obviously does not contribute to well-balanced partnerships and a good self-esteem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kQ2xOHheG4
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The Watchtower Writers need to answer this question "Atheism, not religion, is the real force behind the mass murders of history!"
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhow come the watchtower will not side with christendom and address a topic like the following?
what if christendom had allowed islam to spread it's plunder into europe without a fight and great force?
i direct your attention to islam spreading not as a distraction, but to ask the question most atheist have asked me when we talk of this subject.
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apostatethunder
Atheism as a movement has a political agenda as do many who promote it, which want an all powerful state (themselves) to take religion's place (particularly Christianity) in people's lives. During the French Revolution destroying Churches and reliques was a big part of the program, as was redefining history in secular terms (they even changed the name of the months) and to impose their view of liberte, egalite and fraternite, hundreds of thousands of people were guillotinated.
During the Spanish civil war, going to mass or to a religious school were reason enough to be executed by the communist side, and thousands including minors were.
Marx said: religion is the opiate of the populace, then what is communism? Communist death toll during XX Century: 100 million people. Religions usually protect and defend life, they don't preach to kill innocents, but political ideologies do.
Whether individual atheists realize this connection or not doesn't change the fact anymore than individual Witnesses realizing or not TTATT.
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Strategy game controlling JW religion
by slimboyfat inalong the lines of my previous thread.... .
would it be a cool idea to invent a computer strategy game where you are in control of jehovah's witnesses and you can manipulate various policies and watch the results?
run your own religion.
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apostatethunder
Appart from the incentive of money, political or social effect, and power over others, high control groups provide a pool of trusting people and a close environment over which the leader/s have a lot of control. The more ensnared someone is, the more ensnared they can eventually become.
The WT works like a totalitarian micro-society. Witnesses trust the organization blindly in EVERYTHING they do, including very personal decissions, and are kept in an infantile state for all their lives unless they decide to leave and pay the consequences.
Having this type of influence over millions of people over the world is not a force for civilization.
That is why knowing who is behind high control groups is a matter of public concern as is THEIR mental health. Tom Cruise once boasted in an interview that they are the authorities on the mind, which raises some disturbing questions when you think about what that means.