Posts by apostatekate

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Ex Bethelite experiences, a must read

by James Jackson in

go to freeminds.org and click on the bethel guestbook link.. there are over a hundred life stories, great reading!!!.

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apostatekate

http://freeminds.org/bethel/bethelguest.htm

??? Is this it?

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Ex Bethelite experiences, a must read

by James Jackson in

go to freeminds.org and click on the bethel guestbook link.. there are over a hundred life stories, great reading!!!.

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apostatekate

can you post a better link, I'm having a hard time finding this

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Do you look like the apostate they warned you about?

by Angus Beef in

after waking up and wanting to get out of this nightmare, the word apostate is really bothering me.

if i quitely become inactive, fade away will i just be looked at as "always weak".

i want to scream out how big a fool i was.. and now telling my poor young daughter how wrong i was to bring her up as a jw.

apostatekate

I proudly put "Worldly Apostate" under my religious beliefs on Facebook profile.

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marriage without affection/sex/touching

by zeb in

yes thats my situation.

some where along the path of life the wt guilt trip was dumped on our marriage and we havent had sex for years.. anyone else?

the hearts and flowers and gifts and doing the cleaning, the house work and paying the daily accounts never being drunk on drugs playing the horses or screwing others yep its all there but nothing coming back due to the wt guilt trip.. they made so much of 'oral sex' and 'pornea' incorrectly quoted at that and ventured thereby into areas they were patently very ill equipped to comment on.

apostatekate

Not only was oral sex a huge topic in the 80s, they didn't sheild us JW children from the discussion. I remember being in book study with my family, I was 6-7 years old and they were discussing oral sex in front of the children!

I honestly believe my lack of sexuality and shyness in the bedroom is due to growing up in this cult. It's such a hard thing to overcome. I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable in my sex life and I've been married to a wonderful, loving man for 15 years. Thankfully our marriage has survived in spite of my hang-ups.

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AUTISM and JW children

by apostatekate in

i was a jw kid.

i remember having to sit still through long, boring meetings.

i remember being taken to the book room for numerous spankings.

apostatekate

Nugget,
What you just wrote is exactly the way I imagined Kingdom Hall and House-to-House would be for my autistic son.

I even sent it to my mom, who has been disfellowshiped for many years BUT refuses to look at apostate literature and forums. I thought she should see it because I keep wanting to encourage her, that she made the right decision 25 years ago to leave, but she's still riddled with guilt.

But, it seems that your son and my son are very much alike. And, it just proves once again that this is an organization of mans' whims, and not of God.

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AUTISM and JW children

by apostatekate in

i was a jw kid.

i remember having to sit still through long, boring meetings.

i remember being taken to the book room for numerous spankings.

apostatekate

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102008329

Here's an article from the WT. So, apparently if a person with autism keeps *trying* to do the Witness-mandated things you'll eventually get used to it and want to do it. Yep, the cure for autism. (It doesn't mention children with autism.)

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As Claire’s confidence increased, Chris suggested that she try to serve as an auxiliary pioneer, a term Jehovah’s Witnesses use for baptized Witnesses who spend 50 hours or more each month sharing their Bible-based beliefs with others. “I can’t do that,” Claire responded.

However, Chris encouraged her by saying that even if she didn’t achieve her goal of 50 hours that month, at least she could be happy that she had tried. So Claire tried, and she really loved the experience. She did it again and again, enjoying it all the more. This built up her confidence, especially when she found many people who wanted to learn more about the Bible.

Claire took to heart the encouragement she heard at Christian meetings to consider whether there was anything stopping her from becoming a regular pioneer, or full-time evangelizer. She decided to become one. The result? In Claire’s words, “It’s the best thing to do!” She has become much closer to those in her congregation and has developed many friendships. Children love being in her company, and she gladly helps them as they preach together."

YUCK!!!

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AUTISM and JW children

by apostatekate in

i was a jw kid.

i remember having to sit still through long, boring meetings.

i remember being taken to the book room for numerous spankings.

apostatekate

I wonder if any parents have been disfellowshiped or at least disciplined by the higher ups for skipping meetings or leaving meetings due to not being able to control a child with autism?
I wonder how many compassionate JWs talk behind their backs, heh heh...

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AUTISM and JW children

by apostatekate in

i was a jw kid.

i remember having to sit still through long, boring meetings.

i remember being taken to the book room for numerous spankings.

apostatekate

I was a JW kid. I remember having to sit still through long, boring meetings. I remember being taken to the book room for numerous spankings. There was always a line in front of the door of the book room of parents with their wiggly (normal) kids. No Sunday school was provided for us. We were expected to keep up with the adults and it was awful.

Skip ahead to now, I am a mother of an autistic child. Autism has seemingly increased quite a bit from those times and I think about how it would affect our family if my son was forced to sit through Kingdom Hall. He has no filter, he does not know what "shhh, quiet" means. He's five, but he acts like a much younger child. Sensory issues and obsessions might make it impossible for him to wear the monkey suit JW kids are required to wear. And, to take him out in "service" would result in meltdowns of epic proportions. The grocery store and restaurants are enough to make him vomit. In and out of a car seat (because kids are required to be in car seats, unlike when I was sitting in laps back in the 70s and 80s) probably makes it hard for any parent/child going "house to house" these days.

I just wonder how sensitive the organization is to children with special needs, or if kids with autism are lined up in front of the door of the book room, waiting for their spanking. Are the parents blamed for their bad behavior? I was accused and medicated for ADHD when I was in fact a normal child who like normal children have difficulty sitting in an uncomfortable chair listening to a boring talk for two solid hours.

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Things you must avoid at all cost!!

by redvip2000 in

i'd like to ask if you recall certain things you were forced to avoid or throw out because they were supposedly demonic, or connected with the occult, or even just plain bad.. i remember we were told to avoid the harry potter movies and books, because he is a magician.

also acdc music.. lol.. .

and oh yeah, during a talk an elder specifically mentioned the show "married with children", because it was a bad example of how a family should behave.

apostatekate

It's been about 20 years since I've been in the loop, what are some recent no-nos? Is American Idol against Jehovah because it promotes "idol worship"? Are there any that might surprise me?

-Kate

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Things you must avoid at all cost!!

by redvip2000 in

i'd like to ask if you recall certain things you were forced to avoid or throw out because they were supposedly demonic, or connected with the occult, or even just plain bad.. i remember we were told to avoid the harry potter movies and books, because he is a magician.

also acdc music.. lol.. .

and oh yeah, during a talk an elder specifically mentioned the show "married with children", because it was a bad example of how a family should behave.

apostatekate

I remember my grandmother telling me that Brother So-and-So wanted to have a talk to me after the meeting one evening. After the meeting when everyone was conversing in the lobby, the brother told me that I was no longer allowed to watch The Smurfs.

-Kate