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  JW"S Banned In Moscow Today!

  by Ranch in

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  i was watching cnn and heard this announced.

  i also found this article at the following link.. http://www.iht.com/articles/525323.html

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  Ranch

  I was watching CNN and heard this announced. I also found this article at the following link.

  http://www.iht.com/articles/525323.html
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  The Resurrection Hope - what a crock!

  by PopeOfEruke in

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  mary and adelle are 2 jehovahs' witnesses, as well as fleshly sisters living deep in the "time of the end".

  mary is married to an unbeliever called john, who is a good kind man, and one who never interfered with her worship.

  adelle on the otherhand, is married to a jw elder, who, unbeknownst to her, has been molesting children in the congregations over many years.

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  I was raised as a Witness from the time I was 2 years old. The "Resurection Hope" was never a hope or comforting.It always bothered me and every time I brought up my troubles with it to mom she would sayb that I just needed to have faith in Jehovah. Also I needed to watch my attitude because it could turn into apostacy.I just thought I was spiritually weak.This and so many more subjects and I just submitted thinking I was dumb.

  So Okay let me get this right, I lie rotting in the grave and maybe just maybe Jehovah will remember me( of course, there is no garentee of that) That sure makes me feel comforted,

  So, he may or may not resurrect me to a paradise earth. I then find that my husband has remarried a perfectly built beautiful woman raising MY children in a georgous new home !!

  I have to live in a dormatory/ nunnery with other resurrected women like me. I still look like s#@$ because I have to grow to perfection I couldn't compete with that and of course I wouldn't dare try to userp God's arrangement besides I can't mate anyway! I just have to realize that Jehovah doesn't let us resurrected folk marry. This is Jehovah's will.

  We sit in our dorm doing cross stitch, knitting or crossword puzzles.

  Yippi!!

  That is not a hope it is Sadistic torture!

  It made no sense to me when I was a child nor will it ever. No Loving God would set this kind of arrangement up and call it a hope!!

  As you can see this is just one of my hot spots.
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  Can you even stomach the name "Jehovah"?

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can't.

  in the few times i have prayed since leaving the dubs i notice i catch myself -- "dear heavenly god jeh----......" there's just so much emotional baggage connected to the name.

  i wish to leave it behind altogether.. b.

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  Not after reading this 2-1-1999 Watchtower article! I had forced that name on people all my life and then find out that there is no way to know how to say it.

  Jehovah"

  or "Yahweh"?

  "MONGREL," "hybrid," "monstrous." What would cause Biblical Hebrew scholars to use such emphatic terms? At issue is whether "Jehovah" is a proper English pronunciation of God?s name. For over one hundred years, this controversy has raged. Today, most scholars seem to favor the two-syllable "Yahweh." But is the pronunciation "Jehovah" really so "monstrous"?

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  the Root of the Controversy

  According to the Bible, God himself revealed his name to humankind. (Exodus 3:15) Scriptural evidence shows that God?s ancient servants freely used that name. (Genesis 12:8; Ruth 2:4) God?s name was known by other nations as well. (Joshua 2:9) This was especially true after the Jews who had returned from exile in Babylon came into contact with peoples of many nations. (Psalm 96:2-10; Isaiah 12:4; Malachi 1:11) The Interpreter?s Dictionary of the Bible says: "There is considerable evidence that in the postexilic period many foreigners were attracted to the religion of the Jews." However, by the first century C.E., a superstition about God?s name had developed. Eventually, not only did the Jewish nation stop using God?s name openly but some even forbade pronouncing it at all. Its correct pronunciation was thus lost?or was it?

  What

  Is in a Name?

  In the Hebrew language, God?s name is written יהוה. These four letters, which are read from right to left, are commonly called the Tetragrammaton. Many names of people and places mentioned in the Bible contain an abbreviated form of the divine name. Is it possible that these proper names can provide some clues as to how God?s name was pronounced?

  According to George Buchanan, professor emeritus at Wesley Theological Seminary, Washington, D.C., U.S.A., the answer is yes. Professor Buchanan explains: "In ancient times, parents often named their children after their deities. That means that they would have pronounced their children?s names the way the deity?s name was pronounced. The Tetragrammaton was used in people?s names, and they always used the middle vowel."

  Consider a few examples of proper names found in the Bible that include a shortened form of God?s name. Jonathan, which appears as Yoh·na·than´ or Yehoh·na·than´ in the Hebrew Bible, means "Yaho or Yahowah has given," says Professor Buchanan. The prophet Elijah?s name is ´E·li·yah´ or ´E·li·ya´hu in Hebrew. According to Professor Buchanan, the name means: "My God is Yahoo or Yahoo-wah." Similarly, the Hebrew name for Jehoshaphat is Yehoh-sha·phat´, meaning "Yaho has judged."

  A two-syllable pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton as "Yahweh" would not allow for the o vowel sound to exist as part of God?s name. But in the dozens of Biblical names that incorporate the divine name, this middle vowel sound appears in both the original and the shortened forms, as in Jehonathan and Jonathan. Thus, Professor Buchanan says regarding the divine name: "In no case is the vowel oo or oh omitted. The word was sometimes abbreviated as ?Ya,? but never as ?Ya-weh.? . . . When the Tetragrammaton was pronounced in one syllable it was ?Yah? or ?Yo.? When it was pronounced in three syllables it would have been ?Yahowah? or ?Yahoowah.? If it was ever abbreviated to two syllables it would have been ?Yaho.?"?Biblical Archaeology Review.

  These comments help us understand the statement made by 19th-century Hebrew scholar Gesenius in his Hebrew and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament Scriptures: "Those who consider that י ה ו ה [Ye-ho-wah] was the actual pronunciation [of God?s name] are not altogether without ground on which to defend their opinion. In this way can the abbreviated syllables י ה ו [Ye-ho] and י ו [Yo], with which many proper names begin, be more satisfactorily explained."

  Nevertheless, in the introduction to his recent translation of The Five Books of Moses, Everett Fox points out: "Both old and new attempts to recover the ?correct? pronunciation of the Hebrew name [of God] have not succeeded; neither the sometimes-heard ?Jehovah? nor the standard scholarly ?Yahweh? can be conclusively proven."

  No doubt the scholarly debate will continue. Jews stopped pronouncing the name of the true God before the Masoretes developed the system of vowel pointing. Thus, there is no definitive way to prove which vowels accompanied the consonants YHWH (יהוה). Yet, the very names of Biblical figures?the correct pronunciation of which was never lost?provide a tangible clue to the ancient pronunciation of God?s name. On this account, at least some scholars agree that the pronunciation "Jehovah" is not so "monstrous" after all.

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  The day a brother died in my Hall, & the unbelievable events that followed.

  by Mr Ben in

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  this one really freaked me out.

  i was so brainwashed at the time i found a way to justify it.

  i think i?ve been repressing my anger about this and now i need to vent.

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  How Awful!!

  This reminds me of what happend in our Kingdom Hall. We had a pioneer sister who had terminal cancer and even though she was on deaths door she came to all the meetings, weelchair, oxygen and all.

  On a Sunday meeting, during the prayer, we heard crying and carring on in the back of the hall.We all knew she had passed away ( Yes I peeked pefore the prayer was over),

  anyway the prayer went on and many of us were in tears. The brothers rushed back after the prayer and wheeled her body into the second school. This was a tramatic event for us all, especially the children! I feel bad for saying this because I know she was a faithful sister and all but I was miffed at her for putting us through this.Oh well, she died happy.
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  ARE JWs Snoops?

  by Zep in

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  on the the back of awake june22 is a short little story!.

  last year, in maryland, u.s.a, a man politely refused the wt and awake magazines.his younger, however asked if she could have them, and the father said that she could.the two cleaning their car and putting trash in a nearby trash container[in other words a dumpster].

  concerned that the magazines might be discarded, the witness who offered them decided to return later[in other words late at night/early morning] and check the container[container is such a nice word...but in reality its called a dumpster...].

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  Zazu,
  Hi!
  Yes, our moms must have been sisters!
  LOL,These memories,there just too much!

  My mother used to read all my letters and listened in on all my phone calls.If I complained that I wanted privacy she said that it wouldn't matter to me unless I had something to hide and it was her right as my mother to moniter me.

  This really hurt me that she wouldn't trust me.I was a good girl.

  I seriously wonder what kind of person she really is.

  There were other snoopy JWs that I remember but she out does them all!

  My grown DF'd sister lived in a trailer for awhile on their property and when my sister would be gone my mother would think of an excuse to go over there and snoop away while there.

  She used to tell me what she found in her bedroom and other rooms!
  My sister realized this was happening and decided to give her something to find.
  She bought Play Girl and Play Boy mags,R rated videos and sex toys.
  She left them out and dared her to say something.
  That was funny.She got what she deserved!
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  Young People Ask book

  by crownboy in

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  how many of you guys really believed and took to heart every word that was written in it?

  i was recently rereading it and it was ridiculous how sophomoric and unrealistic some of the answers to the questions were (e.g.

  when you have the urge to engage in the "sin" of masterbation you should pray to god untill the urge goes away.

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  Thirdson,

  The Youth book is one of the ones that I was studied with in the seventies too.

  They just never made us give ministry school talkes out of it.
  Some of those chapters were hard to go through with my dad.

  Both my parents gave my sister and I the feeling that we were potential sluts and threats of dad loosing his eldership if we did anything were regularly dished out.
  He was doing plenty to get his own self removed but the pressure was put on us.

  April,
  Your welcome!

  Yes those Mormons are a nutty bunch too.
  All this sexual repression!!
  No wonder so many JWs go off the deep end!
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  Update On My Sister

  by Ranchette in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my sister was homeless for the second time in one month and my husband and i spent all week on the phone, computer and otherwise trying to find help for her or just figure out what to do.

  we couldn't support another person.. the original story and thread on this is at * http://www.jehovahswitness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=12492&site=3.

  anyway i feel much better now knowing things are looking better.. we drove to st louis sunday moved her out of that families home and put all her stuff in storage.. i did not know this but st louis has around 45,000 bosnian immigrants.. my sister became friends with some of them and one of the guys has offered to let her stay at his place for a couple of weeks.. we met him and saw his apt.

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  Young People Ask book

  by crownboy in

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  how many of you guys really believed and took to heart every word that was written in it?

  i was recently rereading it and it was ridiculous how sophomoric and unrealistic some of the answers to the questions were (e.g.

  when you have the urge to engage in the "sin" of masterbation you should pray to god untill the urge goes away.

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  Did you put one ou these * in front of the link?

  Here I'll try

  * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?site=3&id=13938&page=1
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  Preparing for Armageddon!

  by Mindchild in

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  what was the silliest thing you ever did to prepare for armageddon?.

  way back when in my pioneering days, when we were out in service we would often talk about what to do when the great tribulation came along.

  one of my pioneering buddies told me that he was so sure the gt was around the corner that he went and buried some food for the bros and sis to eat when we fled to the hills.

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  I told my husband about this thread and he confesses to buying a survival book and army surplus stuff like water purifying pills.

  We have camping gear and 4-wheelers too.
  All kinds of good stuff to escape to the woods with.

  I read his survival book and learned what plants we could eat and I also learned how to salt cure meat like they did before refrigeration.

  We were nuts!
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  Halloween IS Evil!!

  by Ranch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i should have listened!.

  the wisdom i was brought up with may have been good but i gave in and celebrated halloween this year.. i have been eating candy for the last three days!.

  skittles.

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  I should have listened!
  The wisdom I was brought up with may have been good but I gave in and celebrated Halloween this year.
  I have been eating candy for the last three days!
  Skittles
  Starburst
  Tootsie Rolls
  Bit-o honey
  Now and later
  Smarties
  m&ms
  Sweet Tarts

  I can't stop!
  Please help me stop this constant sinning and recover my spirituality!