Posts by turtleturtle

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Twin to Twin Transfusion

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http://wtvr.com/2012/11/30/sibling-rivalry-video-shows-twins-fighting-in-the-womb/.

turtleturtle

http://wtvr.com/2012/11/30/sibling-rivalry-video-shows-twins-fighting-in-the-womb/

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7now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, satan will be let loose out of his prison,8and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, gog and magog, to gather them together for the war.

the number of these is as the sand of the sea.9and they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city.

turtleturtle

revelation 20:7-9

7 Now as soon as the thousand years have been ended, Satan will be let loose out of his prison, 8 and he will go out to mislead those nations in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Ma′gog, to gather them together for the war. The number of these is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city. But fire came down out of heaven and devoured them.

question: if the WT is wrong about physical people living on earth during the thousand years, then who are "those nations in the four corners of the earth, god and magog" & "the number of these is as the sand of the sea. And they advanced..."?

also

New International Version (©1984)
I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

who are the ones that come out of the tribulation. what is the proof that they are not physical persons that were actually IN the tribulation.

im testing everything

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JW beliefs that are clearly not based on scripture

by JimmyPage in

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friends

mustaches are okay, but beards are not.

suits and dresses are the only acceptable forms of clothing for worship.. .

how many times is the term "governing body" found in bible?

turtleturtle

dude,

come off it. beards are not "bad". you can still go in service, comment, etc. Just prob not going to get appointed or used for microphones, etc.

also, what the heck are you talking about "suits and dresses are the only acceptable form".

haven't you seen indian/african JWs and their traditional garb. also, again, that is just the standard dress. nothing to say you cant comment, go in service (pretty sure), or attend meetings without suits/dress.

the other stuff you say i agree with.

im not defending jws, im just pointing out reality. some people on here get WAYYYY to carried away.

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WT Elders school: Look how cute that kindly old elder is! Too bad the Talmud says we have to stone our victim anyway

by sir82 in

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more haphazard thougths on the recently concluded elder school..... a big chunk of time was spent on a video which traced a judicial case, all the way from the confession to the elders through the decision to disfellowship the guy.. here is a very brief synopsis of the video:.

tearful late-teen or early-20's publisher confesses to 2 elders that he committed fornication with a "worldly girl" who is now preganant and wants to marry him.

the elders give him some "homework" to do prior to his judcial committee - read psalm 51 and an old wt article.

turtleturtle

god, I wish we could get a copy of these.

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FS

by turtleturtle in

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i was thinking of going in field service this morning and then i thought "dude, no one is home during the weekday!

".

turtleturtle

@ruderedhead

what do i care if they die from refusing a blood transfusion?

j/k

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FS

by turtleturtle in

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i was thinking of going in field service this morning and then i thought "dude, no one is home during the weekday!

".

turtleturtle

I was thinking of going in field service this morning and then I thought "Dude, no one is home during the weekday!"

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The 1919 Date

by turtleturtle in

can someone please give me a neutral explanation of the date 1919?

can the wt prove 1919 from the bible?

what about this quote?

turtleturtle

Can someone please give me a neutral explanation of the date 1919? Can the WT prove 1919 from the Bible? Or, is it more of a probability.

What about this quote? It seems like it is saying 1919 is probable, rather than fact:

*** wt chap. 14 p. 131 par. 8 How Does Jehovah Direct His Organization? ***
8 Since the slave class was loyally doing the Master’s work at his invisible return in 1914, there is evidence that it was entrusted with enlarged responsibilities in 1919. The years since then have been the time for a global witness to the Kingdom, and a great crowd of worshipers of Jehovah is being gathered with a view to their preservation through the great tribulation. (Matthew 24:14, 21, 22; Revelation 7:9, 10) These too need spiritual food, and it is served to them by the slave class. To please Jehovah, we therefore need to accept the instruction he provides through this channel and to act in harmony with it.

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Tax-free Religion

by turtleturtle in

i have never understood why religions consider their tax-free status being taken away an attack on their religious freedom.

religious freedom and tax freedom are two completely different things.

if anything, wouldn't removing tax-free status from religion hinder these large corporations from engaging in questionable activity and being allowed a veil to protect individual members?.

turtleturtle

I have never understood why religions consider their tax-free status being taken away an attack on their religious freedom. Religious freedom and tax freedom are two completely different things. If anything, wouldn't removing tax-free status from religion hinder these large corporations from engaging in questionable activity and being allowed a veil to protect individual members?

Consider this recent example:

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/282987/34/Federal-suit-Scientologist-spent-30-mil-to-cover-death

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KM School

by turtleturtle in

i talked to an elder recently.

he mentioned the recent km school for elders.

i proved to be a bit nosy.

turtleturtle

@hoser

thats all i got.

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KM School

by turtleturtle in

i talked to an elder recently.

he mentioned the recent km school for elders.

i proved to be a bit nosy.

turtleturtle

I talked to an Elder recently. He mentioned the recent KM school for Elders. I proved to be a bit nosy. He said they showed a series of real-life scenarios regarding the way Elders handle congregational matters. One example he gave was a video that provided good/bad examples of what an Elder might do if a Sister, who just lost her husband in death, broke down crying during the song.

He stated that the KM meeting lightly warned Elders regarding being insensitive and mentioning the understanding regarding "no marriage for the resurrected" to the grieving sister. According to him, the KM school stated something along the lines of "We don't know that for certain, and we are just imperfect humans interpreting scripture".

Another doctrine change?