how many of you were aware that watchtower leaders were .
charged with, tried and convicted of sedition.
during world war i ?.
Yeah,and WT is so proud of getting thrown in jail that they have twisted this event into "fullfillment of bible prophecy".They continue to plaster this nonsense in alot of their literature today.
I just couldn't swallow this crap even when I was still a witness.
Ranchette
edited to answer your poll.
Sure, why not.It would be entertaining to see how they would twist this events meaning once again.
today a pedophile got more than 10 years behind bars.. i'll let silentlambs elaborate on the proceedings when he's ready.
i just wanted to say how much i appreciated meeting with everyone in ritzville today.
many testified in behalf of the victim today at the sentencing hearing of one emmanuel beliz, including the victim, friends and family, including silentlambs.
TR,
Thanks for the update.
I agree he deserves more than around ten years!
He's now had TWO trials.He's drrug this out very painfully for Erica and consider the waste of time and money of Tax payers.
I am disgusted to hear he is wanting to apeal and have a THIRD trial!!
Ranchette
i've been mulling over this and i'm finding that its common with several of my extended family who were raised in the org.
- seems that the feeling of never doing enough for the org.
( to obtain a place in the "new system" ) has spilled over into other areas of our lives.
Lydia,
Yes, I remember those feelings very clearly. As Seeker pointed out, these feelings were especially strong in those of us who were raised as witnesses. However these feelings could happen to newer JWs too. As you stated those feelings can creep into every area of your life. It’s really not a surprise when you start realizing how many unreasonable expectations were placed on us along with tons of guilt trips via parents, meetings and literature.
JWs are told they are the happiest people on the earth. And when you aren’t as they describe it makes you think there must be something wrong with you.
Before I quit going to meetings I started realizing that it was not me who had the problem. First I quit reading articles that were nothing but huge guilt trips. I started feeling some relief. Later when I completely quit feeding myself all their negative self degrading literature and quit going to all meetings I found even more peace and inner contentment .I now can be a happy person and a good wife and mother. I now am able to commit myself to those I love the most. I no longer feel like God disapproves of me.
I want others to be free of those feelings too. You don’t have to feel that way about yourself. Before this I felt tired, trapped and hopeless because there was just no way I could live up. It doesn’t have to be this way.
Ranchette
if youre anything like me youve probably been trying to analyze your feelings over the last couple of weeks.it seems like im experiencing an ever-changing array of emotions!.
its starting to come in on me that i had such a false sense of security and naivety .
now when i look at our government i feel like ive been viewing them through the eyes of a child.
Crossroads,
Thanks for your input.
Anger is one of the emotions I’ve been wrestling with too.
Anger at God who sits back and does nothing.
Anger at whoever planned and carried out these terrible things.
Anger at our government because they knowingly allowed foreign terrorists to stay in this country.{there’s no telling what else we don’t know}!
Anger at our government for falling down on the job.
I don’t expect perfection but we have been let down in a lot of ways.
I’m not saying that I won’t support this country. I’m just very disappointed.
I can’t depend on my parents, religion, God, or the government.
That’s why I’m feeling insecure.
But it’s okay because I’d rather know where I stand than believe in any more fantasies couldn’t take the disappointment.
Ranchette
if youre anything like me youve probably been trying to analyze your feelings over the last couple of weeks.it seems like im experiencing an ever-changing array of emotions!.
its starting to come in on me that i had such a false sense of security and naivety .
now when i look at our government i feel like ive been viewing them through the eyes of a child.
Steph,
I just feel let down,sad and insecure.
Ranchette
if youre anything like me youve probably been trying to analyze your feelings over the last couple of weeks.it seems like im experiencing an ever-changing array of emotions!.
its starting to come in on me that i had such a false sense of security and naivety .
now when i look at our government i feel like ive been viewing them through the eyes of a child.
Hello everyone,
If you’re anything like me you’ve probably been trying to analyze your feelings over the last couple of weeks.It seems like I’m experiencing an ever-changing array of emotions!
It’s starting to come in on me that I had such a false sense of security and naivety . Now when I look at our Government I feel like I’ve been viewing them through the eyes of a child. Like they were superheroes or something.
I was led to believe they were protecting us. They would watch our skies and shoot down any threat to this country.
Well, my little fantasy was what was shot down on 9/11/01 instead.
I feel that if they couldn’t protect the Pentagon why should I feel secure?
Is any one else out there feeling this way?
Ranchette
the other day , my youngest daughter in i asked her if she was afraid , she said yes i am afraid they will come and kill us.
i said to her in my best pathetic lie, honey as long as i am here no one will hurt you and then i encouraged her to pray ..any time she feels that way so if i am not with her she can have something to feel secure about.. .
watching a tv show & listening to radio reports the last few days, i cant imagine what a 10 yr old in afghanistan feels in the way of fear.
Stephen,
I watched that CNN report last night and it was on again today.
It had a major effect on me.
Before I had just read about what those people are going through and it never really sunk in or seemed real to me. That is until last night. This made me wonder just how many other countries are being ruled this way?
I am so hurt and angry that this has been allowed to go on so long. I’m also very sad that there’s so much suffering in the world.
All most of us have ever known is life here in the US. I guess I believed that most every one else lived allot like us only poorer. I took our freedoms for granted. I see now what Americans want to defend.
Ranchette
the fourth paragraph on page 30 in the october 1, 2001 wt says this:.
"getting back to paul's statement in hebrews, we note that he pointed out that "there remains a sabbath resting for the peoples of god," and he urged his fellow christians to do their utmost "to enter into that rest.
" this shows that when paul wrote those words, "the seventh day" of god's rest, which had started some 4,000 years earlier, was still in progress.
I think someone needs to wake God up from his rest.
While he's oversleeping all hell is taking place on his precious earth!!
Ranchette
taliban, taliban (no relation to tallyman, i swear!
... the similar phonics give me the creeps).
anywho, here's what you do with those jokers.. send in the delta force from ft.bragg.. drop 'em in to kabul and surroundings and they round up all taliban.. air ferry the captured taliban to sweden.. shave off their beards.. pump 'em full of estrogen.. and give 'em all a sex-change operation.. put 'em on the planes back to afghanistan, fly over kabul, .
how beautiful the music combined with this all consuming collective grief we all feel in behalf of those who experienced tragedy on sept 11 in nyc.
i am moved at the heart and feel the pain that is being expressed here tonight via television.
humanity at it's highest level is being displayed through one another and the cries go up to heaven through the music and the words and the stories of the victims.
Bboy,
This tribute was not directed just to dead heros.
They told stories of bravery from those who survived also.
I felt it was honoring all involved whether dead or alive.Plus it was for all of us who griev the losses.
It was good up to the last song.They needed more mics.
Ranchette
