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  Elder School Summation

  by messenger in

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  friday.

  well sad to say it was not revelations of sweeping reform or "new light" on caring for the flock.

  the first day was primarily rehash of old stuff.

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  Ranchette

  Messenger,
  Thanks from me too.

  I was just thinking of how so many of us have wondered about these secret meetings and schools because of how they act like it is such a privilege and so mysterious.

  This is always how it ends up, much ado about nothing!

  I remember after all those years wondering, finally going to pioneer school and feeling let down.
  The secret book said nothing and I felt like a slave every night doing all that study after sitting all day.
  It could have been so much more informative and enjoyable.

  For those of us who have read Crisis Of Conscience, we found out it’s the same way with the mysterious GB meetings.

  The deep spirituality and spirit direction is painfully absent.

  It’s all about politics and power and control.

  God is nowhere to be found in all of this.

  Amazing,

  “BS Overseers”
  How funny and fitting.

  Ranchette
  
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  My favorite Xmas movie is on right now...

  by Andee in

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  a christmas story!

  i love this movie!!!!

  ralphie wants a red rider double action bb gun and the whole movie is about how he goes about making sure he gets one for christmas.. here's some classic lines from it:.

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  Andee,
  I love that movie too!
  Remember the little brother eating mashed potatoes like a pig?
  And the kid getting his tongue stuck on the flag pole?
  There are so many funny things in that movie.

  Ranchette
  
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  LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

  by josephus in

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  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

  we see the same mistakes .

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  Jesephus,

  I've been thinking about this and I don't want you to misunderstand me.

  You said,to slag me off and say im a as bad as abusers is fucking lousy thing so say.

  Please go back and read my post.I never said that's how I felt about you.
  I was saying that if you were completly informed on the facts and still held to those views I would feel that way about you.
  I truly have felt from the start that you weren't seeing the whole picture.
  I was upset when you seemed to be stubornly holding your ground.
  I want peace and I wanted to say that it means alot to me that you are reading the silentlambs site.
  That speaks volumes to me.
  There's mountains of info there.
  I hope after reading it you will understand why we were so upset with you.

  Ranchette
  
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  did any of you read the entire bible once...?

  by Richie in

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  just wanted to know if any of you have read the entire bible?

  - i remember that it was mentioned in the congregation many times that this would be a requirement that we were to read the bible in its totality at least once and especially as elders!.

  i myself never had the time (or energy) to read the scriptures from cover to cover.

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  Richie,
  I am glad you asked this question. I agree with what you are saying and here’s why;
  All my life as a witness I had been overwhelmed with all the burdens WT heaped on me and I felt I could never live up!
  I had never read the entire Bible and felt bad for that on top of everything else.
  The summer before last was a breaking point for me. The District Assembly was very depressing.
  We were told we weren’t doing enough, that 80 to 90 percent of the Israelites (Gods chosen people) didn’t make it to the promised land and we could expect something similar with making it to the new order, then they proceeded to read in a very thunderous voice and in graphic detail how those who don’t make it will have their guts spilled out and eaten by birds!

  I couldn’t continue like this any more. They had been encouraging us to read the Bible for the last couple of years but I just didn’t feel I could fit it in to my already unbelievable schedule.
  I did some thinking and realized that for all these years I had put mans word ahead of what I believed was Gods so I decided to read the Bible and I would never feel guilty for being behind on WT literature again!

  Well as you can imagine that was the beginning of the end for me.
  Much of what they teach does not harmonize with the Bible when you read it in context.
  I was shocked like you said.

  Ranchette
  
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  LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

  by josephus in

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  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

  we see the same mistakes .

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  Ranchette

  This thread reminds me of another one that Josephus started back in the summer.
  * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=7859&site=3

  Josepus,
  All I can say without sounding unladylike is that I completly disagree with you and I'm glad to know where you really stand.
  Please let us know if your feelings ever change.

  Ranchette
  
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  "A Father's Touch" JW Molester In The...

  by silentlambs in

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  a new book has been written about yet another jw child molester.

  this was done by his son who has become a talented writer.

  i wish to share an article reviewing the book that he sent to me and the link is:.

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  Ranchette

  Silentlambs,
  I know your busy but you might want to take a look at Josephus thread called Let's all Take A Big Breath.
  * http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=16219&site=3

  Ranchette
  
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  LETS ALL TAKE A BIG BREATH

  by josephus in

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  it seems to me that we are searching continually for newer and better dirt on the wtbts.. now we hear about jw child abusers.

  child abuse is still a newish thing in the public eye.

  we see the same mistakes .

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  Josephus,

  I can't believe you have just said what you have.
  I hope this is just a case of a person(yourself)who has taken an issue and jumped to conclusions without making sure they have all the facts.
  Because if you have been paying attention and already know all the facts on this, it would mean you are just as sick and wicked as the molesters!

  I hope Comf is right when he said you have missed the point!
  Yes it is to be expected that JWs will have abuse just like other groups.

  But that is not what this is about!
  The problems go much farther that this.
  We are not having a fit because abuse exists in the org.
  It is the policies that are in place that protect the abuser and further victomize the victim.WT has been aware of this for years and refuse to help instead of harm victims more.
  You said,
  Jw abusers will be caught as well by current systems as they will by attacking the watchtower.

  You are so wrong!! Because of whats going on in this org victims and their families are threatened with loiosing everything if they don't keep their mouths shut.
  In most cases it never makes it to the proper authorities which is exactly the way WT has it all set up to protect their image.

  I really hope you are saying these things out of ignorance.
  There's no excuse for it though.There's tons of info out there to catch you up.
  We are not persecuting the JWs as you suggest.
  This is a hidious thing that is going on and something must be done.
  We know this org inside in out.
  It makes sense to fight causes you are an expert in.
  I feel insulted by your words.

  I really have to wonder who you really are after seeing this thread.

  Ranchette
  
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  My Thanksgiving

  by wasasister in

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  ginny t, ginny's son, my daughter, me...just finished over-eating, as is the tradition in this country.

  we're enjoying a glass of chardonnay, sitting in front of a fireplace, plunking tunes on a grand piano, and looking out at puget sound.

  ginny says it reminds her of the west coast of norway.

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  Mulan,

  My Lord, 46lbs!!!
  Are you sure that was a turkey you cooked and not a small horse or something?
  I didn't know they got that big.
  Maybe that one was on steroids.
  I cooked a 20 pounder and thought it was big.
  Now I find out mine was just a shrimp.

  Sounds like yall had a great time.I'm glad.

  Ranchette
  
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  My Thanksgiving

  by wasasister in

  1. jw
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  ginny t, ginny's son, my daughter, me...just finished over-eating, as is the tradition in this country.

  we're enjoying a glass of chardonnay, sitting in front of a fireplace, plunking tunes on a grand piano, and looking out at puget sound.

  ginny says it reminds her of the west coast of norway.

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  Mulan,
  My Lord, 46lbs!!

  Ranchette
  
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  WTBS GETS SHIRTY WITH JW

  by JEMIMAH in

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  below is an email from a bro i know who has a website to help jws get scriptures and materials they may need, in it you will find the society comments and his own.. .

  dear jem this a letter i received from patterson, this morning.

  i would appreciate your comments as i know you work on the ****** desk in london.. cheers .

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  Ranchette

  Prisca,

  I'm glad you responded because I was just thinking how "bitchy" I sounded to you before.
  Sorry

  Anyway, yes I'm sceptical but I totaly understand anonimity.I sure value mine at this point.

  I think I'll go get my beauty sleep now and maybe I 'll be nicer tomorrow.
  Take care and we will talk again later.

  Ranchette