Posts by raven101

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Watchtower's New Loving Arrangement

by cyrano in

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recently jehovah has provided new light to the organization regarding personal conduct during the meetings.. an increasing number of our brothers and sisters have not focused their attention completely on the material being presented at the meetings.

these distractions have caused a few to lose out on the life-saving food given at the 'proper time'.. in view of such matters, a new position in the congregation has been established.

following the loving directions of proverbs 12:1, a congregation disciplinary servant will now monitor all brothers and sisters to ensure they are paying full attention.. no doubt, many wonder what christian duties the new disciplinary servants will be blessed with.

raven101

Cyrano,

I was serious, I'm very very curious as to whether or not this is true?

need the info;

raven101

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My Experience Today with My Brother

by Reborn2002 in

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well, my brother and his wife came over to my parent's house to visit today while i was home.. to make a long story short, while my brother and his wife were chatting with my mother in the living room, my 1 and a half year old nephew reilly walked into the kitchen where i was making a caesar salad.. he walked over towards me and was smiling, how can any normal adult resist the innocent smile of a child who is your relative?

i picked him up and gave him a huge hug, and told him i loved him.. as i was holding my nephew in my arms, my brother walked into the room.

he was smack dab in the middle of an in-depth conversation about jehovah with my mother and his wife, and i admit i was rolling my eyes listening to him spew about the "truth" and "the only means for salvation in the last days of this wicked system" even though when i confronted him with info on the un, blood, russell gravesite, rape changes, exclusivity, etc, he had no response for me because he was dumbfounded and lost for words.

raven101

Reborn,

I'm sorry that happened to you and your nephew, like the others have said you really did the right thing by walking away from the situation. I have 5 sisters and all with the exception of 1 have kids, we have had our battles and done some pretty shitty things to each other but no matter WHAT was going on between the adults our children were and are ALWAYS shared and loved, NEVER brought into anything negative.

Once a situation almost identical to yours happened (moms house, sisters baby toddling to me) only as much as sis and I were hating each other then, she was glad I was loving my niece. No matter what the contentions between 5 sisters and I over the years, the sharing of the children has never been affected. But then we all 'fell away' from the 'truth'.

I'm sure there's a connection there.

March On said don't lose hope for your brother seeing the light and I have to say when I first read your post I got the distinct feeling that in all probability he WILL.

It honestly might happen quicker if you refrain from talking to him or any witnesses in your family about it, it probly just makes them defensive. But you know yur family situation best . . . just a thought. Sad to say but when he withheld your nephew from you it was probably more defending his god than protecting his son.

Chin up and all that if he's any kind of decent person (I'm sure he is or you wouldn't try to help him see the light), he'll think on what he did and feel badly for it.

Just take care of you,

raven101

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ex-jws and cognitive dissonance

by HildaBingen in

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mystikool told me i should endure.

he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought.

so i no longer offended.

raven101

Hilda,

I'd love to read may bible to check on the 'goads' thing but once last summer I ran out of an important household staple and I had to use my bible instead (the nwt ain't exactly Charmin . . . but it works in a pinch!).

Maybe you could loan me yours, I promise to return it . . .

raven101

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The Nephilim - What can I say!

by Matty in

im sure nothing surprises the people who regularly post here.

but what really shocks me now is that as a child i genuinely believed some of the most preposterous, stupid and moronic things ever committed to papyrus.. take the nephilim.

well they were mutants.

raven101

The bible can be a very confusing topic if you expect it to be consistent or make sense . . . but what do you expect analysis of (largely poorly written) fiction to be like? Personally I like Stephen King better, at least he's consistent.

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what if

by raven101 in

don't know if this is the appropriate place to post this it certainly isn't a jw belief and i don't believe in believing (much of anything), but i'm always theorizing always speculatin' and heres a particular speculation i've been hypothesizing for some while now, something a really powerful post in this forum inspired me to throw out here for your perusal.

whatever the reaction, your sure to have one!.

think about this, you know suffering, struggling, forging on .

raven101

Introspection,

You're good, you're goooood . . . actually I'm looking at it from a combination of those viewpoints and a few more (among others physics, and some mathematical equational reasoning).

You are good, and i mean that in the best relative way.

Blondie,

Yes I actually hear it a lot . . . mostly from the birds.

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The lawyers are sniffing around my site

by Quotes in

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now i'll try not to be paranoid and jump to conclusions, so let me stick to the facts.. at my quotes site i have set up an email "autoresponder" with links to online versions of the "pay attention" (i.e.

id k0slsfs5; thu, 16 may 2002 14:38:29 +0100.

id <k8rs3jrm>; thu, 16 may 2002 14:43:38 +0100.

raven101

It can be very disturbing when a lawyer sniffs around your site, it can make you feel very victimized. I once had a lawyer sniffing around my site . . . fortunately (in a way, unfortunately in another) he worked for me . . . I fired him.

raven 101

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DEAR JW'S-----GET A CLUE

by deddaisy in

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"apostates don't care about victims, their real agenda is to stop the preaching work.

isn't this comment an oxymoron?

the "preaching work" consists of jw's attempting to have householders "renunciate" their faith, thereby making "apostates" out of the householders.

raven101

Blondie,

That's certinly encouraging news! Maybe we'll continue to see a like trend in ALL religions and soon be rid of the man made curse of religion altogether. I think that would be PARADISE!

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Are ex-jw who are angry potential . . .

by mystikool in

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it seems that there is much anger on this place.

in my country we do not understand the manifestation of hostility manifested on a public board.

if some of these people do not calm down, they might be next terrorists in news.

raven101

Maybe 'he's' from ganja country where nobody is angry . . . everybody is just laaaaaaiiiiiiiiiid . . . baaaaaaaaaaaccccccck . . . ?

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Women say JWs downplay sex abuse

by Dogpatch in

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women say jehovah's witnesses downplay sex abuse.

http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/02/05/17601862.shtml?element_id=17601862.

two middle tennessee women said they have a full understanding of a tullahoma woman's claim that the jehovah's witnesses organization has downplayed or ignored child sexual abuse for years.. ''in fact, nothing happened to the man who molested me,'' said melissa trice, 30, of spring hill, about an incident she says occurred in shelbyville 22 years ago.. ''one of the elders asked me, 'what were you wearing?

raven101

Reasoning which is a natural product of a religion which is born of a dominant self-serving patriarchal society (as are 99% of religions).

Such societies are by definition run by men who exibit the worst traits associated with their gender and therefore victimize women, children, and the decent members of their own gender (i.e. the majority of other men).

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21 YEAR OLD DIES REFUSING MEDICAL AID

by deddaisy in

these articles most likely have previously been posted, one is from 2000 but i'm posting them in response to "dead lambs" in the may 15, 2002 friends forum....as the articles are from a news database, i don't have any links...... (yes, i edited and changed this, you're not losing it....).

tass .

raven101

If you think about it really the blood thing really makes no sense, I mean its supposed to be about the importance of blood pertaining to an animal who had died. Why? Because the life is in the blood, it's sacred, belongs to jehovah, should be poured out ... If were talking about blood from a living donor its obviously a different thing, presumably they are still alive . . . I haven't heard of them draining corpses for viable plasma have you?